- Oct 26, 2012
Was John Brown a Traitor?
But let's see who votes yes to brown and no to lee and vice versa.I dont know why you keep asking this question Gem. It's black and white. A man who takes up arms against his own country with the intention of sparking a widespread insurrection, regardless of the reasons behind his action, is guilty of treason. There is no doubt about it whatsoever.
But let's see who votes yes to brown and no to lee and vice versa.
I voted yes to both as well.And I have voted yes to both. I am, as I said in the other thread, more sympathetic to Lee, because his treason was a reactionary kind where he had to choose where his loyatlies lay in a moment of crisis, whereas Brown's was a deliberate sort where he sought to initiate his treasonous activities. In essence, Brown deliberately set out to commit treason, Lee chose to commit treason due the circumstances he faced, both made the concious decision to commit treason but Brown intended to do so from the start whereas Lee's first reaction was to remain loyal to the Union but Virginia's secession changed his circumstances.
I'm glad you pointed that out as it brings up an interesting question: How was Virginia able to bring the treason charge in the first place for an attack on a federal facility?
To a state that he was never a citizen of
Not being an expert on the case itself, but I'm guess they could have used the attack at the railway yard or fighting with the townspeople and holding some hostage, if I recall correctly..I'm glad you pointed that out as it brings up an interesting question: How was Virginia able to bring the treason charge in the first place for an attack on a federal facility?
Or the federal government might have just given him up to placate the Southern rage over the incident...I've always thought he should have been tried by a Federal court since his crime was to attack and seize Federal property and to open fire on Federal troops. The civilian casualties he caused were, really, just caught in the cross-fire. Why did the Federal government simply relieve itself of its responsibility and leave Virginia to handle things? Could not he have been tried for his crimes against Virginia as well as his crimes against the United States?
I posted the link to the trial- it's pretty "illuminating". There were concerns if he was tried Federally he would be pardoned. The judge was blatantly prejudiced against him. There were many severe irregularities. And so on...Or the federal government might have just given him up to placate the Southern rage over the incident...