Book Review VMI Commemorations and Memorial Committee meeting

vmicraig

Sergeant
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Location
Mobile, AL
In the event anyone is interested in virtually attending, there will be interesting discussion of the potential renaming of the dozens of Confederate related monuments, paintings, buildings and items at VMI, based on what is currently going on.


The VMI Board of Visitors’ ad-hoc Commemorations and Memorials Naming and Review Committee will meet Wednesday, Jan. 13, 2021, beginning at 10 a.m. The meeting will be streamed live on the Board of Visitors Upcoming Meetings webpage.

The committee will receive public comments between 10:10 and 10:25 a.m.Public comments must pertain to matters within the purview of the committee. If you wish to participate in the public comment period, you must register with Lt. Col. Sean Harrington at [email protected]. Please provide your name, email, phone number, VMI affiliation (e.g. cadet, faculty member, employee, alumni, parent, or member of the public), and any request for reasonable accommodations. The deadline for pre-registration is at 4:30 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 12, 2021. You may also submit written comments to Lt. Col. Harrington that will be distributed to committee members.

Sincerely,
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Thomas A. Brashears '95
Chief Operating Officer
VMI Alumni Association
 

atlantis

Sergeant Major
Joined
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Where is this going will VMI become watered down, will its mission of producing citizen soldiers who go on to provide leadership in their communities be compromised.
 

19thGeorgia

1st Lieutenant
Joined
Apr 4, 2017
In the event anyone is interested in virtually attending, there will be interesting discussion of the potential renaming of the dozens of Confederate related monuments, paintings, buildings and items at VMI, based on what is currently going on.
Rename a monument?...painting?
Not sure what is involved with that.

"Cadet foot race, 1864" (?)

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vmicraig

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Location
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Where is this going will VMI become watered down, will its mission of producing citizen soldiers who go on to provide leadership in their communities be compromised.
Back in Oct or Nov, The Commemorations and Memorials Naming & Review Committee" published its first (and certainly not the last) draft partial list of items for "review" due to connection to Confederacy (the list in it's entirety includes plaques, painting, monuments, buildings, statues).

1. Maury Brooke Hall (Science building)

2. Statue of Matthew Fontaine Maury within

3. Preston Library

4. Jackson Memorial Hall (Chapel & museum)

5. Scott Shipp Hall - liberal arts building

6. Richardson Hall - former laundry facilities; cadet life facility

7. Francis Smith Administration Building

8. Francis Smith Statue outside of building

9. Jackson Statue (already removed)

8. George Washington Statue outside Washington Arch

9. Virginia Mourning her Dead statue adjacent to cadet graves

10. Jackson Hope Monument

11. Alpha Tau Omega Fraternity Monument (Founded at VMI)

12. The VMI Institute Flag

13. New Market cadet graves

14. Cadet Battery of 4 cannons (Matthew, Mark Luke and John)

15. Union Mortar Shell on corner of Letcher Avenue

16. Ruffin Plaza

17. Jackson Arch

18. Confederate Cannon from Letcher Battery at parapet

19. Jackson Quote on Barracks arch

20. Parapet Wall Quote

21. Painting of Monitor and Merrimac

22. 1st meeting of faculty painting

23. Portrait of Francis Smith in FS Hall

24. New Market mural in chapel

25. Portrait and plaque of John Mercer Brooke

26. Plaque to Edmond Ruffin

27. Plaque dedicated to cadets who carried munitions to Harpers Ferry

28. VA State Landmark signage wording

29. Other Miscellaneous plaques

The problem lies in where this will stop, if it stops at all. Jackson Sttue has already been removed. Jackson Memorial Hall will inevitably be renamed due to the cancel culture taking place at VMI and throughout our country, and the mural of the cadets charging the battlefield at New Market removed. Will the statue of Virginia Mourning her Dead be removed, too? Will it include removing the remains of the cadets killed at New Market from VMI and moving them back to the battlefield or to their respective family plots? Will Scott Shipp Hall, Maury Brooke Hall, Crozet Hall, Preston Library, etc all have to be renamed because of their connection to the Confederacy? Will streets like Letcher Avenue be renamed? Will the 4 cannon out front (Matthew, Mark Luke and John) be destined for a museum or put out of site because the were part of the Confederacy? Will the statue of Washington be removed since he was a slave holder? Will the museum on post have to rid itself of Civil War related items or remove Traveler from public view? The list goes on.

It is a slippery slope and politics have come into play. No other school in the nation has ever sent her entire Corps into battle as a unit..that is one of the hallmarks of VMI and a very important part of her history, from which cadets learn about fortitude, honor and sacrifice. Right or wrong, agree or disagree, many of the alumni are concerned that removing VMI's historical connections to anything Confederate or Civil War related will simply turn VMI into a bland, faceless military school with an ROTC program with no connection to her origin and past. If that's the case, then we may as well send her cadets off to get their commissions via an ROTC program at Cal Tech, SUNY, James Madison, Ferrum college, Radford or any other host of schools that have no significant wartime history. There is no separating VMI from her history in the American Civil War without Destroying the very bedrock of what makes VMI unique Among senior military colleges. Without that history, the very ideals on which cadets are taught the principles listed above are forgotten in the PC whitewashing of history.

Sure, VMI can continue to educate students toward a nameless bachelors degree, but VMI will no longer be the uniquely positioned learning environment that teaches historical values based on the actions of those cadets who came before us, instilling within every cadet a tie to our past that keeps us unique. If this continues, VMI will simply become just another school, ruined by the ongoing
cancel Culture. Is that what we want for unique schools like VMI, or the Citadel, or even the Naval Academy or West Point? Or should we go ahead and whitewash the history of every one of those institutions until they are nothing more than generic buildings within which children gather to learn academics? They may as well go to a community college instead.
 

PapaReb

First Sergeant
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Location
Arkansas CSA occupied
The problem is history is not being whitewashed.

It's being reevaluated in context this time.
The problem with that is that it is being reevaluated within the context of THIS time rather than being in context of the time in which the events occurred. I keep saying that we cannot look at 19th century events with 21st century ideas.
 

unionblue

Brev. Brig. Gen'l
Member of the Year
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Location
Ocala, FL (as of December, 2015).
The problem with that is that it is being reevaluated within the context of THIS time rather than being in context of the time in which the events occurred. I keep saying that we cannot look at 19th century events with 21st century ideas.

And we cannot use the social standards and racial norms of that time to dictate to us here in the 21st century.
 

BuckeyeWarrior

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Location
Ohio
The problem with that is that it is being reevaluated within the context of THIS time rather than being in context of the time in which the events occurred. I keep saying that we cannot look at 19th century events with 21st century ideas.
Even back then some people understood what was being done.

“The crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains, a self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery.”
General George H. Thomas

No country should have statues of memorials commemorating people who took up arms against it. Is there any other country in the world that does?
 

Andersonh1

Brigadier General
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South Carolina
No country should have statues of memorials commemorating people who took up arms against it. Is there any other country in the world that does?

An aspect of American exceptionalism is that after our Civil War there was reconciliation and forgiveness. Part of that reconciliation was that each side agreed to allow the other to honor their heroes, and often honored them as well. To go back on that agreement now is a sign of regression toward anger and resentment, not progression towards anything positive.
 

BuckeyeWarrior

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Location
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Statue of George Washington (London, England)

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That statue was a present from the people of Virginia to England. The inscription reads;
“Presented to the people of Great Britain and Ireland by the Commonwealth of Virginia 1924”

It was not put up by the England to commemorate a traitor. Has any country put up a statue of people who took up arms against said country?
 
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BuckeyeWarrior

Sergeant
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Location
Ohio
So are you acknowledging that in the instance of the AWI George Washington was a traitor to the Crown?
Of course he was. I don't know anyone who would say different. I, however, am an American and am glad he was a traitor to the crown. I take a very dim view of traitors to America, such as the confederates.
 
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