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Oct 9, 2017 9:28 PM -
JerseyBart: Checking on
Oct 9, 2017 9:28 PM -
JerseyBart: In
Oct 9, 2017 9:29 PM -
MaryDee: Hi!
Oct 9, 2017 9:29 PM -
lelliott19: Checking on......or in as the case may be.
Oct 9, 2017 9:29 PM -
MaryDee: Hopefully more coming?
Oct 9, 2017 9:29 PM -
JerseyBart: Lol
Oct 9, 2017 9:30 PM -
lelliott19: I hope so. I have to admit I watched the video but had some trouble following
Oct 9, 2017 9:30 PM -
chellers: Hi Everyone! Here as a learner, not a moderator.
Oct 9, 2017 9:30 PM -
JerseyBart: We've had some great crowds since school started again
Oct 9, 2017 9:30 PM -
MaryDee: It's been a horrid day ever since I got up and discovered my daughter and SIL are in the midst of the Sonoma County fires! Fortunately, they're OK so far. But it has been a distraction.
Oct 9, 2017 9:31 PM -
JerseyBart: Yikes but glad they are okay
Oct 9, 2017 9:32 PM -
JerseyBart: The discussion was tough to follow. Seemed like he talked in circles over 1 point
Oct 9, 2017 9:32 PM -
lelliott19: Mary Dee Glad to hear they are all safe.
Oct 9, 2017 9:32 PM -
PeterT: Hi everyone!
Oct 9, 2017 9:32 PM -
chellers: Yep, I had a hard time staying with the speaker.
Oct 9, 2017 9:32 PM -
lelliott19: Hi Peter!
Oct 9, 2017 9:33 PM -
MaryDee: The message was that the marker for Chamberlain's wounding is about a mile off. It appears that this is pretty definite given all the primary sources.
Oct 9, 2017 9:33 PM -
MaryDee: Hi, Peter!
Oct 9, 2017 9:33 PM -
JerseyBart: Chamberlain misspoke when he stated his position...got it
Oct 9, 2017 9:34 PM -
lelliott19: I agree. What I found most intriguing is Dennis' method. As a surgeon, I think he approached this via the scientific method. Here is the theory and here is how I am going to prove it. Very interesting
Oct 9, 2017 9:34 PM -
MaryDee: Considering the situation and the severity of his wound, it's a wonder anyone followed his directions!
Oct 9, 2017 9:34 PM -
JerseyBart: He has good reason, almost dying etc
Oct 9, 2017 9:35 PM -
JerseyBart: Agreed marydee
Oct 9, 2017 9:35 PM -
MaryDee: And he had lots of primary sources. I have two of them (Diary of Battle and Forgotten Valor), but I didn't have time to look them up today.
Oct 9, 2017 9:36 PM -
PeterT: Yes Laura. A methodical and detailed approach to prove it.
Oct 9, 2017 9:36 PM -
lelliott19: His other source is the diary of Col Wm D Rutherford 3rd SC
Oct 9, 2017 9:36 PM -
JerseyBart: But it does show, I think, Chamberlain may have had an issue with certain details in his remembrances
Oct 9, 2017 9:37 PM -
PeterT: Which may or may not include Gettysburg JB
Oct 9, 2017 9:38 PM -
JerseyBart: Yup
Oct 9, 2017 9:38 PM -
MaryDee: And his biographers followed them--you'd think they would have checked other sources first, especially in light of the severity of his wound. And, dear Lord, shoving a ramrod the full width of his pelvis!
Oct 9, 2017 9:38 PM -
lelliott19: Indeed. Dennis broke those recollections down one by one and seems to have proved that they were not entirely accurate based upon other primary sources.
Oct 9, 2017 9:39 PM -
JerseyBart: Brb
Oct 9, 2017 9:39 PM -
lelliott19: Wasnt that horrible! I found it interesting that Dennis didnt comment more on the medical aspects
Oct 9, 2017 9:40 PM -
MaryDee: They weren't pertinent to the subject of where he was, except for their effect on his recollection of events.
Oct 9, 2017 9:41 PM -
MaryDee: I mean he was unconscious part of the time from blood loss and certainly was in severe shock!
Oct 9, 2017 9:42 PM -
JerseyBart: Back...school never ends
Oct 9, 2017 9:42 PM -
JerseyBart: I was hoping that the dr would talk some more about the injury
Oct 9, 2017 9:42 PM -
lelliott19: Still, youd think that being surgeon he would have offered more opinion on the impact of such a wound. Like how long after the wounding would he have remained coherent?
Oct 9, 2017 9:43 PM -
JerseyBart: Petersburg certainly was brutal....60,000 casualties
Oct 9, 2017 9:43 PM -
lelliott19: Wonder what additional damage that ramrod might have caused?
Oct 9, 2017 9:44 PM -
PeterT: Did Chamberlain say he found the bullet himself. Pushing against his skin. Or did I mishear that?
Oct 9, 2017 9:44 PM -
lelliott19: Yes Peter. He said there was a pooch of skin. And the canula....that had to have been unpleasant.
Oct 9, 2017 9:44 PM -
JerseyBart: I shared the ramrod story with my classes last year...darn near killed them
Oct 9, 2017 9:44 PM -
PeterT:
Oct 9, 2017 9:45 PM -
MaryDee: No, they found it after pushing the ramrod through the wound. They had already tried probes, which were too short.
Oct 9, 2017 9:45 PM -
lelliott19: Thank goodness for the advances in medicine since.
Oct 9, 2017 9:46 PM -
JerseyBart: Yeah
Oct 9, 2017 9:46 PM -
PeterT: "Now just lie still, we are are going to use this ramrod!"
Oct 9, 2017 9:46 PM -
lelliott19:
Oct 9, 2017 9:47 PM -
JerseyBart: Ouch