Tell me more! Trying to find out more on this musket

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Zak93

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Found this the other day! From my research online, I believe it’s British , the only downfall is there is no date on the musket and also there were many different models of this made the Letter A to the letter F and also what war it may have been used in ?and how would I go about getting that varnish off of it that someone must have done years ago without destroying the rifle and effecting the value .
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Was wondering if you guys could help ! Thanks!
 
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Zak93

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55 inches roughly from tip of barrel to end of butt stock
 
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Its an early 1830 musket made by Mason for the British West India Company. Looks if its been cut down?
EIC Musket, as-issued.
 

Peter Stines

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Manton made civilian guns and locks as well as some military pieces. He was a noted maker of fowling pieces and pistols. Probably among the best. Find D.W. Bailey's books on British military firearms.(Covering the 1830-60 period) Also look for Howard Blackmore's. You'll find a lot of good info. There is a two volume set of books on arms made for and used by the East India Company. Can't recall the author and have not seen the book yet, but it probably has what you are seeking as well
 

Craig L Barry

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Yes this is a HEIC 1842 British "brown bess" smoothbore percussion musket. The 1842s replaced the similar 1839 pattern after most of those were destroyed by a fire at the Tower in 1841.
 
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yulzari

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Civilian sale but to, or similar to, HEIC pattern. Probably bought in from the same maker as supplied the HEIC and retailed by Manton in India. A nice piece similar to a Pattern C but with a later type of lock.

The most interesting part of it is the finish. If (and it is a big if) the black finish is original then it is an important item of history. Black finishes were common to protect British muskets in difficult conditions such as at sea or in hot humid climates. Almost all of these have been removed or worn away in use so a musket bearing the original finish is of museum interest. As a civilian musket it may have been purchased for security and kept virtually unused in a cupboard.

Get someone who is a recognised authority to examine the finish and advise if it is original or recent

Do not remove that finish!

A first step may be to post onto the British Militaria Forum where there are experts in the field. https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/britishmilitariaforums/

Having said all of that, it may just be a modern varnish of course. I do note that the nose cap has some sort of Indian sub continent script on it so it might have been purchased for a Native State or Nepal. Look at the IMA page https://www.ima-usa.com/products/original-british-eic-company-musket-by-manton-and-company-london?variant=26168992709
 
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