Handguns Transitional Remington NMA

Trident3

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As my first post I would like to show a recently acquired NMA. I believe it to be an early transitional model with the German Silver fore sight and by reading other threads I guess made sometime in 1863. All serial numbers match, there's a faint cartouche on the left grip and a puzzling mark on the right grip??. Any comments or further info would be greatly apprieciated,
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Welcome From THE Heart Of Dixie. Nice New Model. It is not listed in the SRS.
 
It is the Springfield Research Services that list (some) US military weapons and units they were issued to.
 
Welcome, enjoy. Cartouche appears to be BH for Benjamin Hannis . Nice revolver
Thanks, I thought Benjamin Hannis too, its very faint and it wasn't noticed till it was seen under a red light, the dealer was also unaware.
 
The "puzzling mark" on the right grip just looks like damage, like it had been dropped onto a sharp rock. At serial #45,403, I doubt its transitional. Just going from memory here (I don't have my reference materials handy), but anything beyond 30,000 was simply the final version of the New Model Army. The front sight might have been replaced, rather than being the factory original.

I have one that is in the 19,000 range, and that one truly is transitional with some features from the prior and final models. Is there any other feature that leads you to believe it is a transitional?

Nice Remington, by the way! They are great fun to shoot, and very accurate.
 
Just checked some reference materials I had ... according to the information I have, the serial number range at the end of 1863 was approx. 44,700...that would imply yours was made early in 1864.

Beals models were produced in the serial #1-3,000 range. The Model 1861s went from ser#3,000 - 22,000 and were concurrently produced with the Model 1863 from ser#15,000 - 135,000. considering your serial number, and the early 1864 manufacture date, I suspect it should not have been "transitional".

That's what I've got...if anyone has different information, I'd love to hear it. I recall it was a challenge to find the information I just posted. I am always looking to upgrade my knowledge.
 
Just checked some reference materials I had ... according to the information I have, the serial number range at the end of 1863 was approx. 44,700...that would imply yours was made early in 1864.

Beals models were produced in the serial #1-3,000 range. The Model 1861s went from ser#3,000 - 22,000 and were concurrently produced with the Model 1863 from ser#15,000 - 135,000. considering your serial number, and the early 1864 manufacture date, I suspect it should not have been "transitional".

That's what I've got...if anyone has different information, I'd love to hear it. I recall it was a challenge to find the information I just posted. I am always looking to upgrade my knowledge.
Thanks for info, this is all new ground for me, so listening carefully. The reason I suspected 'Transitional' was the reference to the silver fore sight and the two line address on the barrel with no mention of New Model. The numbers match so all is original, Are there any other factors that may clarify things?
 
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Beals. Mark the very wimpy loading rammer,the straight cut of the frame where the cyl meets the barrel and so on.
Serial 897.

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Transition. These came in a wide array of features,some later implemented on the NMA and NMN.
Note,as per Beals,the cylinder sans safety notches. Cutout at the cyl/barrel a little different. Different rammer,and at that one you do not have to drop to pull the cylinder pin forward,and thus remove the cyl.
And so on. Serial 16804

All of the Beals innards are specific. Ditto for the transition,while less parts are tho. Hence transitional model.

Both guns above are Navy models.
 
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Beals. Mark the very wimpy loading rammer,the straight cut of the frame where the cyl meets the barrel and so on.
Serial 897.

View attachment 345052

Transition. These came in a wide array of features,some later implemented on the NMA and NMN.
Note,as per Beals,the cylinder sans safety notches. Cutout at the cyl/barrel a little different. Different rammer,and at that one you do not have to drop to pull the cylinder pin forward,and thus remove the cyl.
And so on. Serial 16804

All of the Beals innards are specific. Ditto for the transition,while less parts are tho. Hence transitional model.

Both guns above are Navy models.
Thanks for the info along with the images, Two nice pieces you have there.
 
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