The Battle of Utoy Creek

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The National tribune. Washington, D.C. 24 June 1909.jpg

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn82016187/1909-06-24/ed-1/seq-2/#fullscreen=true

The National tribune. Washington, D.C. 24 June 1909.
 

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Most of the Utoy Creek battlefield is inside the grounds of the Cascade Springs Nature Preserve. When my son and I conducted our Atlanta Campaign Tour last May, this park was closed when we arrived. Crudball.....

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Actually Bill...I believe that only a small part of the Utoy Creek Battlefield lies inside of the modern day Cascade Springs Nature preserve. If you look at William Scaife map of the Battle, only the Kentucky Orphan Brigade and Captain Houston Kings's Missouri Battary were inside of the modern day Nature preserve......Tyler's Brigade which I am interested in, Scaife has them on a hill to the east of the Orphan Brigade. I found a modern typographical map of Cascade Springs nature preserve and according to it, this hill that Scaife has Tyler's Brigade situated is not in the nature preserve today. There is a street that crosses directly over the center of the hill today called "Woodland Terrace SW" According to Scaife's Map, Tyler's Brigade would have straddled Woodland Terrace if you go to Google Street view...you can still see the hill on this road. Jackson's Brigade was next in line for the Confederates even further to the East. His brigade straddled modern day Willis Mill Road SW, again according to Scaife. The next Confederate Brigade to the East of Findley's Florida Brigade who held the ground occupied by today's Cascade Elementary and a brigade of Georgia Militia was even further to the east....I haven't bothered to figure out exactly where they were plus topographical map didn't cover that far east so... My research has led me to question Scaife's map of Utoy Creek though which I mentioned in another thread. According to the History of the 112 Illinois Infantry Scaife's deployment of the Union troops appears to be accurate on his map.....their location might be slightly off. As I stated in my other tread. The ground held by Reilly's Brigade of which the 112th Illinois was members and they path he has them advancing would have bought them into contact with the Kentucky Orphan brigade. Yet it is clear that Reilly's Brigade faced Tyler's Brigade...as the 112th had his colors captured by Tyler's Brigade as well as the 8th Tennessee USA Infantry of the same brigade.
 

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Actually Bill...I believe that only a small part of the Utoy Creek Battlefield lies inside of the modern day Cascade Springs Nature preserve. If you look at William Scaife map of the Battle, only the Kentucky Orphan Brigade and Captain Houston Kings's Missouri Battary were inside of the modern day Nature preserve......Tyler's Brigade which I am interested in, Scaife has them on a hill to the east of the Orphan Brigade. I found a modern typographical map of Cascade Springs nature preserve and according to it, this hill that Scaife has Tyler's Brigade situated is not in the nature preserve today. There is a street that crosses directly over the center of the hill today called "Woodland Terrace SW" According to Scaife's Map, Tyler's Brigade would have straddled Woodland Terrace if you go to Google Street view...you can still see the hill on this road. Jackson's Brigade was next in line for the Confederates even further to the East. His brigade straddled modern day Willis Mill Road SW, again according to Scaife. The next Confederate Brigade to the East of Findley's Florida Brigade who held the ground occupied by today's Cascade Elementary and a brigade of Georgia Militia was even further to the east....I haven't bothered to figure out exactly where they were plus topographical map didn't cover that far east so... My research has led me to question Scaife's map of Utoy Creek though which I mentioned in another thread. According to the History of the 112 Illinois Infantry Scaife's deployment of the Union troops appears to be accurate on his map.....their location might be slightly off. As I stated in my other tread. The ground held by Reilly's Brigade of which the 112th Illinois was members and they path he has them advancing would have bought them into contact with the Kentucky Orphan brigade. Yet it is clear that Reilly's Brigade faced Tyler's Brigade...as the 112th had his colors captured by Tyler's Brigade as well as the 8th Tennessee USA Infantry of the same brigade.
Captured by Orphan Brigade
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I can't make it out on that page...does it say which unit the flag belonged too? I know that a member of Tyler's Brigade who was a Tennessean mentioned in his writings they they faced the 8th Tennessee Federal Infantry as he commented that they fought like Tennesseeans out in the open. I also believe I read somewhere that the Kentucky Orphan Brigade faced Federal Kentucky Units at Utoy Creek....it might help figure out where Mr. Scaife went wrong.
 

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I can't make it out on that page...does it say which unit the flag belonged too? I know that a member of Tyler's Brigade who was a Tennessean mentioned in his writings they they faced the 8th Tennessee Federal Infantry as he commented that they fought like Tennesseeans out in the open. I also believe I read somewhere that the Kentucky Orphan Brigade faced Federal Kentucky Units at Utoy Creek....it might help figure out where Mr. Scaife went wrong.
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That's interesting because the 108th Ohio was also in Reilly's Brigade along with the 8th Tennessee Federal Infantry and the 112th Illinois Infantry...we have confirmed that the 112th Illinios and the 8th Tennessee faced portions of Tyler's Brigade. so Reilly's Brigade must have attached at a point where his right met the Kentucky Orphans and his left met Tyler. I believe in the history of the 112th Illinois, the author lays out how Reilly deployed and lined up his brigade..I'll go back and check and see if the 108th Ohio was indeed on Reilly's Right...I do believe if I remember correctly that the 8th Tennessee was on the Brigade right...I think the 112th Illinois was near the Brigade Center. I'll have to reread that section of the book.
 

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