Stories of D H Hill: Happy Birthday General Hill (12 July 1821–24 September 1889)

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4 wooden nutmegs (w) plus 1 real nutmeg (r) = .05, or five cents.
20 times is a dollar. so 80 wooden nutmegs and 20 real nutmegs to every dollar.
44 dollars worth is equal to 3, 520 wooden nutmegs and 880 real nutmegs.
He made 3 dollars and 75 cents when he sold the assortment. How?
He only had 40 dollars and 25 cents invested.
Which works out to 245 less wooden nutmegs from 3, 520, which makes 3, 275 wooden nutmegs.
Lubliner.
scratch-xxx-how does 3,220 wooden nutmegs sound?
 
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My favorite story gets told with some different words at times.
During the Big Bethel affair, very early in the war, the then Colonel Hill was riding by a church, and noticed two boys up on the steeple observing shells coming overhead, and noting where they were falling.
Hill yelled up: "Isn't it dangerous to be up there,boys?"
"Oh, no sir. They're not shooting at us" was the reply.
 
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There was a definite downside to the Hill personality. He could be a martinet.

The story was told in the history of the 1st NC State Troops that during the 1862 retreat from Antietam Hill ordered that men without shoes be provided with moccasins made from cowhide. Displeased that his orders were not fully carried out, Hill had a number of officers arrested and held for courts martial. I'd be interested in a full account of the entire episode, but it apparently all blew over at about the time Hill was transferred out of the ANV. I believe the arrests were ordered throughout Hill's Division.
 

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I don't believe he was being sarcastic or trying to be funny. Hill wrote a letter to the Secretary of War complaining about the lack of quality in artillery shells. He opened with "There must be something rotten in the Ordinance Department,"....,,
 
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@luinrina has the best answer, 100. And must have studied algebra much more closely than I did which was a :banghead:.

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https://civilwartalk.com/threads/official-thread-of-the-knights-of-edisto.151835/post-1932256
Thanks! I actually took the advance course for maths for my A-Levels (together with English). But I'm not certain it's right. @OldReliable1862 took his solution to his algebra teacher who confirmed it was the right one: https://civilwartalk.com/threads/official-thread-of-the-knights-of-edisto.151835/page-5#post-1936207

I guess good ole Harvey would have been able to answer that in a heartbeat. :D
 

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Thanks! I actually took the advance course for maths for my A-Levels (together with English). But I'm not certain it's right. @OldReliable1862 took his solution to his algebra teacher who confirmed it was the right one: https://civilwartalk.com/threads/official-thread-of-the-knights-of-edisto.151835/page-5#post-1936207

I guess good ole Harvey would have been able to answer that in a heartbeat. :D
My teacher explained that the real and wooden nutmegs should not be lumped together when solving the equation, which it looks like you did here (no offensive intended!) . Mind you, none of this is coming from me, algebra certainly isn't my strong suit!
 

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Hill has long fascinated me, both for his dry wit and his removal from the ANV, as well as a few other details. I would like to know more about him, and yes, he is handsome.
 

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DH Hill certainly hated Americans from the north with a passion, both before and after the war. His post-war "Land We Love" periodical droned on and on about the evil Yankees.

He is a great example of how obsessive the sectional prejudice could be during that time.
 

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So, what's the consensus on the "real reason" Hill was removed from command in the ANV?

I've heard different theories, but what do member of the Club say?
 
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So, what's the consensus on the "real reason" Hill was removed from command in the ANV?

I've heard different theories, but what do member of the Club say?
I've heard that Hill was frustrated at not receiving a corps command after Jackson's death, however I've also heard Hill rubbed Lee the wrong way. I'm not sure what the real reason is.
 

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Wasn't it at Sharpsburg that the front legs of Hill's horse were shot off? I would imagine some comment was said there at that incident either by Hill or a spectator.
He had three horses shot from under him at Sharpsburg. I'm hoping that @NH Civil War Gal will post her story about one of the other instances. It's a good one I had not read before.

In the meantime, here's the Longstreet version of the horse shot from under D H Hill at Sharpsburg that you asked about:
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The Century, Volume 32, Scribner & Company, 1886, pp. 313-314.
 
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So, what's the consensus on the "real reason" Hill was removed from command in the ANV?

I've heard different theories, but what do member of the Club say?
Hill was not removed from command in the ANV...at the end of 1862, Hill was not well and planned to leave the service...the command in North Carolina came open due to events outside the ANV and Hill accepted that command rather than leave the service,. Longstreet became the Dept commander (SE VA and NC)..there were various operations and troop movements during this time, none of which ever came to completion...Longstreet was recalled to the ANV in May..parts of the two divisions he had taken with him were jumbled in with other troops in the three districts that constituted the Dept....Lee inquires of Hill about available troops, Hill is not much help ..the reason was that Hill only knew about troops under his direct operational control. There seems to have been some communication difficulty as Lee had assumed that Hill had taken Dept command on Longstreet's departure, but that had not happened, the three districts then had no common command. Lee saw that Hill was given Dept command, but the realities of Lee's intentions cause problems. Lee wants all of the veteran troops he can get to take on his march. Understandable. Hill does not want to lose all the veterans, as he realizes he will have to defend NC, Petersburg, Richmond and all its approaches. It is at this point Lee and Hill have a soured relationship. President Davis intervened,diplomatically, but not entirely in Lee's favor.It is at this point, when Hill was not with the ANV that Lee will not have him in his chain of command again..
 
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Thanks! I actually took the advance course for maths for my A-Levels (together with English). But I'm not certain it's right. @OldReliable1862 took his solution to his algebra teacher who confirmed it was the right one: https://civilwartalk.com/threads/official-thread-of-the-knights-of-edisto.151835/page-5#post-1936207

I guess good ole Harvey would have been able to answer that in a heartbeat. :D
Now wait one minute!!
4 wooden nutmegs to the penny and 375 pennies made, equals four times the number of pennies.
But, these were counted as a deficit if the yankee made money on the sale. He had cheated the buyer out of 1500 wooden nutmegs. And that does not prove the number sold; nuts!
Please, I want a recount.
Lubliner.
 
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