Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech perhaps? One could ponder the brave men who did battle and think of how far we have come as a Nation simultaneously.
Should the ACW be told differently in both regions? I'm thinking of black codes and Copperhead Dems in the north as well as Unionist areas and soldiers who fought for reasons other than slavery in the south. People know about this stuff here, but I never heard a word of it in school.
Should the ACW be told differently in both regions? I'm thinking of black codes and Copperhead Dems in the north as well as Unionist areas and soldiers who fought for reasons other than slavery in the south. People know about this stuff here, but I never heard a word of it in school.
Why would you love to see that?I'd love to see something about the slavery issue saying the following fact:
All slaves who came in the slave boats to the Americas were enslaved by rival black tribes in Africa who sold them to the British and Dutch Slavers.
Wonder why that is nowhere...
I'd love to see something about the slavery issue saying the following fact: All slaves who came
perhaps. However, all the controversy regarding monuments, at least that I have been hearing of, takes place in the south. That is why I phrased the question the way I did.
It wasnt. But accuracy in monuments isnt important when there is a message to push.I've heard it somewhere, but I never heard that it was all slaves.
Why would you love to see that?
Why no mention of Slavers from other countries (such as Portuguese, Spanish, French, American)?
Why pose a question like this? It strikes me as inflammatory. Monuments are there to commemorate something...... Period. Sure, some monuments on either side of an issue go up with a hidden agenda attached. But it's silly to think that they all have a hidden agenda. It's sillier still to suggest that Southern monuments all come with a hidden agenda. Don't invite people to read into them something which might not be there. Don't presume a hidden narrative in each monument. Don't presume to judge whether Southern monuments should have a different narrative. From what? From Northern monuments?
If that is logical, then it's logical by extension to assume that Northern monuments have a hidden agenda, too. That's just plain silly.
Whose narrative is genuine? Whose narrative is "different"? Whose narrative is the "genuine" narrative? How can we be certain of ANY of this?!
It's a total can or worms. But maybe I have misunderstood the intent of you post. If so , I offer my sincere apology.
Of course, this response is just my opinion. No hidden agenda here, but I know some of you aren't going to agree with me.
Gem,There is no hidden intent in my question, I'm asking exactly what it sounds like I am asking.
As many people on this forum have pointed out, there is much controversy going on these days over confederate monuments in the south. If similar controversy existed over monuments in the North, I would have asked about the northern monuments as well.
Much of the controversy about monuments in the South surrounds the narrative being told by those monuments, and disagreements among people living in those regions about the validity/propriety/accuracy of those narratives.
That is where my question stems from.
Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speech perhaps? One could ponder the brave men who did battle and think of how far we have come as a Nation simultaneously.
I'd love to see something about the slavery issue saying the following fact:
All slaves who came in the slave boats to the Americas were enslaved by rival black tribes in Africa who sold them to the British and Dutch Slavers.
Wonder why that is nowhere...
Gem,
I admit I probably responded in too much haste and I totally misunderstood the thrust of your question. Please accept my apology. Man, this whole recent monument thing has got my head so spun around that I am just about beside myself!
Now that I understand your point better, I sure wish I hadn't gone off on you, but I can't get that back now. I can only apologize.
I think you're a fine contributor here and I enjoy your posts very much.
Patrick