Rosenstock photo "debunked"?

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I lived in Frederick Maryland for 45 years. It was always my understanding that these troops were part of the Confederate Army marching north on Market street just past the crossroad junction with East and West Patrick street in 1862. If so they were possibly part of Jacksons command. From what I've read his boys camped to the North of town. Could be wrong, but that's what I have always believed.
Howdy, neighbor! I've lived in Frederick Co. for almost 30 years, first in the city and now near Middletown. 4 years ago there was a thread on this forum about this photo, and I posted some pictures of the street where it was taken, historical markers, and a picture of some reenactors who tried to recreate it. You will recognize these locations:

https://civilwartalk.com/threads/confederate-soldiers-on-the-march.93798/page-2#post-785717

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Now that you're saying this, did Matthew Brady or others of his ilk, ever take many photographs of the Confederates in the field?
There were a few southern photographers operating in the field, such as George S. Cook and J. D. Edwards, but they only photographed Confederate troops very early in the war while in camp, never on campaign though. Also, a member of the Texas Brigade and former civilian photographer, Solomon T. Blessing, took four photographs of the Texas Brigade while in winter quarters in 1861-62. But that's about it.
 

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That is a neat image. A Misissippi unit if I remember correctly. :D
It was, Co. B 17th Mississippi, just found one of the threads it was posted in. @Mike Serpa posted a blown up version of it that's fantastic, you can really pick out some great uniform details from it.
 

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I'm terrible at pasting links, type in Confederates before a Union camera in the search box and one of the threads comes right up. That photo is discussed in a few threads. The best one of it was in a thread talking about an officer in the photo and I was just on it now can't find it again. You'll have to excuse me for being a complete computer dummy.
 
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. Just remember, some so called "historians" will do anything to get public attention. It's how they make money. If you want to see the worst of it, watch the History channel sometime, you'll no what I mean.
Neither of the two men who came up with the new explanation of the photograph are historians nor is there any indication in the article that they are Civil War buffs; one's a landscaper and the other is a cartographer.
 

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Now that you're saying this, did Matthew Brady or others of his ilk, ever take many photographs of the Confederates in the field?

Well, Confederate photographer A.D. Lytle took terrific shots of Federal troops- I think? When something that crazy and amazing hoves into view, always worry about validating it- spy, for the Confederate Secret Service? Someone better informed would have to get into him further. Seems to have posed as a war photographer, took photos of Federal troops, ships, camps etc, for spying purposes.

It was a little brilliant although you'd have thought someone around Federal camps would have thought twice about being so gosh darn helpful towards every, single person with a camera.
 

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Somewhere I saw a photograph of this scene but with the camera moved farther back showing yankees in the foreground and the Confederates on the other side - or did I dream it ?
 
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To me, it wasn't as important as to where and when it was done; but the fact that it is still reportedly the only picture ever taken of Confederate soldiers on the march.
Well there's this one of Company H, 3rd Arkansas Infantry - this is in one of the displays at the Civil War Medicine Museum in Frederic, MD.
 

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Well there's this one of Company H, 3rd Arkansas Infantry - this is in one of the displays at the Civil War Medicine Museum in Frederic, MD.
Where and when was this taken? If you know, that is.

Ryan
That photo's of the Hempstead Rifles, Co. B of the 3rd Arkansas State Troops (not the same unit as the C.S. 3rd Arkansas Infantry). Taken in front of the Jones Hotel in Washington, Arkansas, ca. 1861. They later fought at Wilson's Creek and disbanded thereafter.

There are a few other very early war photos of southern companies out there, though most taken before they were actually mustered into Confederate service. I posted a few others in this thread: https://civilwartalk.com/threads/communities-gone-to-war-company-photographs.137713/
 

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To me, it wasn't as important as to where and when it was done; but the fact that it is still reportedly the only picture ever taken of Confederate soldiers on the march.
I was just thinking before I read your post that I didn't remember ever seeing the Confederate army on the move before. So now it's confirmed, 1st time for everything I guess. :D
 
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An excellent thread, great discussion!! I didn't know that this was the only photo taken of the Confederate Army marching. I also had no idea how in-depth a single photo could be studied!! And the lengths at which some people can go to find the truth...even 150 years later in a fuzzy, hard-to-make-out photograph! I stand in awe at how knowledgeable some of you guys are! Thank you for posting.
 



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