Restricted Robert E Lee monument is staying put...

Viper21

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Victory in Charlottesville....! For now anyways :D

A judge ruled last week that Lee's statue is protected by state law as a war monument. For those unaware, the Charlottesville City Council tried to illegally remove the monument leading to lots of nonsense. Without the City Council's illegal actions attempting to remove this monument, the rally that caused all the uproar wouldn't have happened at all.

While punitive damages aren't to be awarded, the Judge in the case, has said he's going to award attorney's fees to Plaintiffs (Virginia SCV & 11 citizens).

I won't be surprised if the City appeals to a higher court.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ue-removal-blocked-virginia-judge/2338100001/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...villes-confederate-general-statues-must-stay/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/char...sy_hxXMocvUYW_cQES_U-nKRyAo607saeCS2cNGpsdCJd
 

Brendan

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Let it remain, then, as a whiteboard for protests against white supremacy.
 
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Victory in Charlottesville....! For now anyways :D

A judge ruled last week that Lee's statue is protected by state law as a war monument. For those unaware, the Charlottesville City Council tried to illegally remove the monument leading to lots of nonsense. Without the City Council's illegal actions attempting to remove this monument, the rally that caused all the uproar wouldn't have happened at all.

While punitive damages aren't to be awarded, the Judge in the case, has said he's going to award attorney's fees to Plaintiffs (Virginia SCV & 11 citizens).

I won't be surprised if the City appeals to a higher court.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ue-removal-blocked-virginia-judge/2338100001/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...villes-confederate-general-statues-must-stay/
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/char...sy_hxXMocvUYW_cQES_U-nKRyAo607saeCS2cNGpsdCJd
All the more reason these issues should be looked at statewide levels, apparently the communities arent even aware of state law.....
 

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on my scale of "should it be removed or protected" I would put it somewhere in the middle.

It is not a war memorial put up by the veterans themselves or even their families. And it is not a monument of a ordinary soldier to honor a local unit.

But at the same time From what I could find about the man who paid for it, he don't seem to have had any clear connections to groups like the KKK or similar. And he spend a good deal of money on Philanthropy.
And I don't believe there is any text on it glorifying White supremacy or similar?
 

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It's truly refreshing to have good news when it comes to preserving these monuments.
It IS refreshing. Thank God for the SCV...! The Virginia Division in particular, went to bat strongly for the rule of law, & the preservation of the Lee Memorial where it stands. I sincerely hope the judge in the case, awards them, & the other plaintiffs in the case, their full legal fees (600k+) as this case should've never happened to begin with. The law was clear. The city knew what the law was, & has wasted millions of dollars in an illegal attempt to remove Lee from this park.
 
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on my scale of "should it be removed or protected" I would put it somewhere in the middle.

It is not a war memorial put up by the veterans themselves or even their families. And it is not a monument of a ordinary soldier to honor a local unit.

But at the same time From what I could find about the man who paid for it, he don't seem to have had any clear connections to groups like the KKK or similar. And he spend a good deal of money on Philanthropy.
And I don't believe there is any text on it glorifying White supremacy or similar?
Nope, it simply says Robert Edward Lee 1807 1870

Its always somewhat amazed me, about any list of greatest US military commanders will include Lee, hes studied at West Point, but apparently that cant possibly be what it was intended to recognize........
 
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Will they/can they appeal to the US Supreme Court?
I don't believe so. It’s also only a matter of time before there is some event or yet another next complicated arrest situation and nation is set alight again with pundits on TV eager once again to fan the flames.

The question right now is more or less what of the what what of the history of the Civil War and American history can be preserved at through the era where identity politics have become all important yet again?
 
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It's frustrating to see all that time and money spent in court with a win for preservation, only for a change of party and a change in the law to render it all moot. I realize that's how the system works and that laws are passed or repealed on the whim of a legislature, but if the people fighting to keep these in place had known what was coming, do you think they'd have tried a different tactic? I suspect so.

All that work for nothing.
 
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Viper21

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It's frustrating to see all that time and money spent in court with a win for preservation, only for a change of party and a change in the law to render it all moot. I realize that's how the system works and that laws are passed or repealed on the whim of a legislature, but if the people fighting to keep these in place had known what was coming, do you think they'd have tried a different tactic? I suspect so.

All that work for nothing.
Very frustrating indeed. Hundreds of thousands of dollars were spent on the court battle by, private citizens, & the SCV to keep these monuments in place. Eventually, they won in court. Only to have the city of Charlottesville spend hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars to remove them, after their cronies in Richmond changed the law which had protected these monuments, & forced them to honor their agreement with the original donor.
 

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The local people of Charlottesville, through their elected government acted in spite of roadblocks from Richmond and demonstrations (some that turned violent) by white supremacists groups.

Why shouldn’t the people and government of Charlottesville decide?
 
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