Return of the Confederate Veteran

[gem]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?410243-3/return-confederate-veteran

Return of the Confederate Veteran Historians spoke about the return of Confederate veterans across the South after the end of the Civil War.

They spoke at “Reconstruction and the Legacy of the War,” the 2016 summer conference hosted by the Civil War Institute at Gettysburg College. 

 

[Pat Young]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?410243-3/return-confederate-veteran

Return of the Confederate Veteran Historians spoke about the return of Confederate veterans across the South after the end of the Civil War.

They spoke at “Reconstruction and the Legacy of the War,” the 2016 summer conference hosted by the Civil War Institute at Gettysburg College. 

Thanks for posting that.

 

[ucvrelics]

I would suggest that you hear it from the horse mouth. You can get a CD of all the volumes of Confederate Veterans magazine which are filled with ORIGINAL CS Vets stories of the war and coming home.

 

[leftyhunter]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?410243-3/return-confederate-veteran

Return of the Confederate Veteran Historians spoke about the return of Confederate veterans across the South after the end of the Civil War.

They spoke at “Reconstruction and the Legacy of the War,” the 2016 summer conference hosted by the Civil War Institute at Gettysburg College. 

I don't know the numbers but quite a few moved to the West. There is still a expatriate colony of descendents of Confederate veterans in Santa Barbara, Brazil. Some moved to Cuba. Some went overseas and came back. Col.Jo Shelby and some of his men fought for the French in Mexico. When that didnt work out they moved back to Missouri.
Leftyhunter

 

[ucvrelics]

I don't know the numbers but quite a few moved to the West.

It wasn't just a few it was a bunch.

 

[leftyhunter]

It wasn't just a few it was a bunch.

One man's quite a few is another man's bunch.
Leftyhunter

 

[mofederal]

I have seen stories in some magazine some years back about the Confederate descendants still living in Brazil. It was and interesting read as well many pictures showing how the immigrants changed the lives of themselves and their descendants.

 

[leftyhunter]

I have seen stories in some magazine some years back about the Confederate descendants still living in Brazil. It was and interesting read as well many pictures showing how the immigrants changed the lives of themselves and their descendants.

On YouTube there is at least one documentary about them. As far as the dreaded "M" word (miscegenation) we are talking Brazil.
Leftyhunter

 

[7th Mississippi Infantry]

I have seen stories in some magazine some years back about the Confederate descendants still living in Brazil. It was and interesting read as well many pictures showing how the immigrants changed the lives of themselves and their descendants.

There are quite a few threads about the Brazilian Confederados within Civil War Talk.

Here's one or two :
https://civilwartalk.com/threadloom/search?query=confederados brazil&tab=207

 

[5fish]

Here is the greatest mistake during reconstruction... Grant's great mistake... This return of Confederate veterans is what led the election violence in the coming years...

The Amnesty Act of 1872

On May 22, 1872 (140 years ago today) President Ulysses S. Grant signed into law the Amnesty Act, a federal law that removed voting restrictions and office-holding disqualification against most of the secessionists who joined the rebel cause during the Civil War, except for some 500 military leaders of the Confederacy.

Following the end of the Civil War, in May of 1866 Congress passed a law removing these rights from supporters of the Confederacy. Gradually, states that had succeeded were let back into the union. Texas was readmitted on March 30, 1870, Mississippi has readmitted February 23, 1870, and Virginia on January 26, 1870. Georgia became the last Confederate state to be readmitted into the Union on July 15, 1870. All members for the House of Representatives and Senate were seated from the 10 Confederate states who seceded.

To ease tensions, Grant signed the Amnesty Act. It gave amnesty to former Confederates. This act allowed most former Confederates, to hold elected public office. Only 500 former Confederates remained unpardoned and therefore forbidden to hold elected public office. The Act affected over 150,000 former Confederate troops who had taken part in the American Civil War.

By passing this act it allowed all old ruling Southern elite back into southern politics... a big mistake!

Is that not an odd picture of Grant is grant doing a Pullover with his hair...

 

[Bruce Vail]

Here is the greatest mistake during reconstruction... Grant's great mistake... This return of Confederate veterans is what led the election violence in the coming years...

The Amnesty Act of 1872

On May 22, 1872 (140 years ago today) President Ulysses S. Grant signed into law the Amnesty Act, a federal law that removed voting restrictions and office-holding disqualification against most of the secessionists who joined the rebel cause during the Civil War, except for some 500 military leaders of the Confederacy.

Following the end of the Civil War, in May of 1866 Congress passed a law removing these rights from supporters of the Confederacy. Gradually, states that had succeeded were let back into the union. Texas was readmitted on March 30, 1870, Mississippi has readmitted February 23, 1870, and Virginia on January 26, 1870. Georgia became the last Confederate state to be readmitted into the Union on July 15, 1870. All members for the House of Representatives and Senate were seated from the 10 Confederate states who seceded.

To ease tensions, Grant signed the Amnesty Act. It gave amnesty to former Confederates. This act allowed most former Confederates, to hold elected public office. Only 500 former Confederates remained unpardoned and therefore forbidden to hold elected public office. The Act affected over 150,000 former Confederate troops who had taken part in the American Civil War.

By passing this act it allowed all old ruling Southern elite back into southern politics... a big mistake!

Is that not an odd picture of Grant is grant doing a Pullover with his hair...

Thanks for posting this. I have participated in a number of discussions here on Grant's presidency and don't recall seeing this mentioned.

This doesn't really support the notion that Grant was some kind of champion of the freedman.

 

[5fish]

Thanks for posting this. I have participated in a number of discussions here on Grant's presidency and don't recall seeing this mentioned.

This doesn't really support the notion that Grant was some kind of champion of the freedman.

I to have never knew this as well. History gives us the impression Johnson gave amnesty to all X-confederate but its untrue. It was Grant the great emancipator of x-confederates, is ironic the right word to use.

The issue by allowing all these x-confederates to enter politics, it was the fuel that causes the South explored in violence...

 

[Bruce Vail]

I to have never knew this as well. History gives us the impression Johnson gave amnesty to all X-confederate but its untrue. It was Grant the great emancipator of x-confederates, is ironic the right word to use.

The issue by allowing all these x-confederates to enter politics, it was the fuel that causes the South explored in violence...

Hindsight is always too easy. It's seems clear in retrospect that all the Reconstruction presidents erred in thinking that a generous amnesty of ex-Confederates would heal the wounds of war. The amnesties didn't heal anything.

 

[5fish]

Interesting that no one sees the importance of this laws during the Reconstruction era. It fueled the change in the south from Black and Tan rule to White Supremacy rule, allowing the old Planter elite to rule again... Historians and everyone ignore it... Think about all those X-confederate officers becoming governors of states and Senators and Congressmen only because of this law...

Democrats regain the house in 1872 and push the Amnesty bill but it does not explain why Grant signed it...

https://books.google.com/books?id=d...esty Act of 1872 sponsor in the house&f=false

Here is why he signed it... He kicks out his Attorney General and everything changed... no more enforcement of racial laws

https://books.google.com/books?id=X...nt Grant sign The Amnesty Act of 1872&f=false

Here the Northern people were losing interest in reconstruction...

By 1872, most Northerners were losing interest in Reconstruction. Proof of this changing opinion was evidenced in 1872, when Congress passed theAmnesty Act of 1872. Amnesty means forgiveness of past offenses. The Amnesty Act allowed most former Confederates to vote again. The effects of the Amnesty Acts were almost immediate. By 1876, Democrats had regained control of all but three states in the South. Republicans clung to power in South Carolina, Louisiana, and Florida, but only with the help of federal troops.