muzzleloader
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Why would NJ not? I would expect them to be very pro Union.
muzzleloader said:Why would NJ not? I would expect them to be very pro Union.
muzzleloader said:Why would NJ not? I would expect them to be very pro Union.
Susan Sweet said:Funny thing is I know many Northern Californians today would still love to see the state divided in half Of course no one wants Bakersfield so it will never happen.
Susan
muzzleloader said:Why would NJ not? I would expect them to be very pro Union.
michiganmoon said:In New Jersey Lincoln did lose the popular vote, but Lincoln won 4 of 7 electoral college votes in the state since Lincoln won a majority of New Jersey's districts.
trice said:NJ was traditionally aligned with the South on most issues. Although slavery had been outlawed their, it took over 40 years to emancipate their slaves and there were in factct some 36 "slaves" not still in the state, almost all in one county in the center of the state.
hoosier said:Whether New Jersey should be considered the only Northern state not to have voted for Lincoln depends on what you consider a Northern state.
All the electoral votes of both Maryland and Delaware went to John Breckinridge in 1860. You could argue that Maryland, generally considered a border state, was not really a Northern state, but I would think that Delaware, which does not share a border with any of the states that actually joined the Confederacy, should be counted as a Northern state.
cash said:Lincoln won 3 of the 4 electoral votes in NJ. Douglas won the other 4.
Regards,
Cash
samgrant said:Thank, Susan.
The total votes in California for Douglas plus Breckinridge totalled about 72,000 vs. about 43,500 for Lincoln (or maybe 55,000 for Lincoln plus Bell). I find this quite remarkable, as Lincoln got all 4 of the Electoral votes!
Susan Sweet said:Many Californians believed in states rights. Not slavery per say but States Rights. We were to be two states north and south . It has passed the state legislature but US legislature put an end to it as the balance would have been off in Senate . So many people supported the south here for that reason .
michiganmoon said:Are you sure? I was able to find a few sources that say that Lincoln did in fact win 4 of 7 electoral votes in New Jersey.
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~ewdow/Politics%20116/electionof1860-2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1860
http://www.etymonline.com/cw/1860.htm
http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/fi/000000bd.htm
http://www.dbappdev.com/Acs/elec1860/elecmap.htm