Orion M.E. said:
"Newly discovered photo of Grant from the Mexican American war making this one of his very first photos ever taken of him"
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What is the evidence that this is Grant? It looks nothing at all like him, certainly not the 25 year old he was during the Mexican War. That's the face of a grim middle-aged man.
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anonymous sixth plate, with an octagonal brass mat, housed in a early maroon morocco leather case. The plate stamped on the lower left L[ouis]B. Binsse & Co. N.Y.. Craig's Daguerreian Registry lists Binsse as a supplier of daguerreotype plates betwee...
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anonymous sixth plate, with an octagonal brass mat, housed in a early maroon morocco leather case. The plate stamped on the lower left
L[ouis]B. Binsse & Co. N.Y.. Craig's
Daguerreian Registrylists Binsse as a supplier of daguerreotype plates between 1843-45. In 1843 he is noted as being at the company was listed at 40 Beech Street. In 1844-1845, the company was listed at 83 William Street.
There are no known surviving daguerreotypes of Grant from this period, though a tintype copy of a now-lost daguerreotype is curated in the collections of the National Portrait Gallery,( ) and a paper photographic copy of a now lost daguerreotype is curated by the Ohio Historical Society ( ).
This daguerreotype has been examined by a number of Grant/and or photographic specialists, and there is no considered consensus that this is Grant. Grant Romer, Director, Advanced Residency Program in Photographic Conservation at at the George Eastman House, for example, noted in an April 2006 message to the consignor:
My first response (an important one) is very positive. I immediately saw a resemblance before going to the comparison image.; Dr. William Schultz, noted author and collector and authority on military images of the Mexican War, reported in May, 2006:
Detailed examination of this sixth plate daguerreotype depicts and officer of the United States Regular Army in a single breasted frock coat of a company grade rank. He wears narrow shoulder straps of the style worn during the period of the Mexican War...denoting a rank of first lieutenant...The facial features shows positive correlation to known contemporary images of Ulysses S. Grant. Grant was brevetted first Lieutenant in 1847 and received the actual rank...later that September. It is my opinion upon examination of this image that it is of Ulysses S. Grant taken circa 1847."
In addition to these experts high quality digital images of both of these photographs was examined by Gerald B. Richards, of Richards Forensic Services, noted that while many of the facial characteristics of the images he examined are consistent, the plate offered here does not reflect sufficient individualizing characteristics to positively identify him as Ulysses S. Grant, nothing was noted...that would suggest is it not Grant...and that based on the materials submitted for examination, it is more than likely that the individual in [the plate offered here] is Ulysses S. Grant. Each of these opinions is included with the lot.
Some more rare photographs of Grant you may of never seen before. Part 3
[This is in response to post #1. Threads were combined very confusingly.]
The image at the left is not a photograph, but a post-civil war illustration inspired by the actual 1840s photo on the lower right.
I’m also sorry for the combined photos, the mods combined them not me so it wasn’t my choice