lawer dagget
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- Aug 27, 2019
Hello again: First off. Thanks to all on input and replies on my picture posting of my Sharps & Hankings.
I have been in a struggle getting a cartridge built for this very fire-able rifle. Info on loads and such is hard to come by -- and when you get such info, it never matches with past info. I realize most of you are collector's and never think about shooting a collectable. I respect that big time, but this one can and will be shot and used to the degree that it does function. It's life was either faked or placed in storage. None the less, it is ready for a test run.
As said above. Info is lacking and does not always jive.
Mine slugs at 54 cal bore, and chamber cast is 56-56 straight. I found a Spencer bullet that fits the bill for 54 cal with the smaller tail to fit the .520 inside diameter case of the 56-56. It measures .524. Nice press fit and (does) chamber.
My question is: Wikipedia seems to have the most overall info, yet the powder charge does not match. They say it took 42-45 gr BP by volume I assume.
Pics will be included I hope. But I loaded light for first run at 35 gr with one card with compression and was spot on to the cut rim for diameter difference.
3 total and 1 with 40 gr with no card. I did measure weight on the 40 volume and it was 37.0 gr. It will have a black mark on it in the pics. It did not seat to the ring. Could Wiki be off on their #'s per powder load?
I'm looking for any help I can get on actual 56-56 loads for the Sharps & Hankins Navy. Once again, the trick is.... this is an odd duck. It is not a 52 cal or 50 cal. as so many were. They all used the 56-50 case which was longer and could handle the powder as said. The 50-56 case will fit nicely in my chamber and I could use the case with a neck expander and enjoy the room for the powder charge spoken of. But Dixie does not make a 56-50 case set up for the rim fire conversion.
Yes --- I know! My hole, and I crawled into it. Not a problem, I get that. I'm just asking if anyone out there can give me some real specs on powder load for the 56-56 cartridge, or a direction to follow. I'm kinda on the figure of a miss print or wrong info. If the brass is the correct length and full top is at 43 gr and the info says 42-45 was the charge. There is something wrong. The last pics are of the final. The one with the black mark is the 40 gr with no card and it would not fit to the cut edge for diameter difference. Oops! forgot to mention. Pics 2 and 3 should show the trim cut. It goes from the stem being .524 to the bullet diameter at .544. It's a small mushroom style bullet. It's odd - but true. If all my #'s did not match. I would say it's a miss-match. All I ever see about the Navy 1862 rifle is 52 cal and some at 50 cal. Army also for that matter. Yet the Spencer bullet mold tells some story. I just don't know how they connect.
Thanks again to all.
I have been in a struggle getting a cartridge built for this very fire-able rifle. Info on loads and such is hard to come by -- and when you get such info, it never matches with past info. I realize most of you are collector's and never think about shooting a collectable. I respect that big time, but this one can and will be shot and used to the degree that it does function. It's life was either faked or placed in storage. None the less, it is ready for a test run.
As said above. Info is lacking and does not always jive.
Mine slugs at 54 cal bore, and chamber cast is 56-56 straight. I found a Spencer bullet that fits the bill for 54 cal with the smaller tail to fit the .520 inside diameter case of the 56-56. It measures .524. Nice press fit and (does) chamber.
My question is: Wikipedia seems to have the most overall info, yet the powder charge does not match. They say it took 42-45 gr BP by volume I assume.
Pics will be included I hope. But I loaded light for first run at 35 gr with one card with compression and was spot on to the cut rim for diameter difference.
3 total and 1 with 40 gr with no card. I did measure weight on the 40 volume and it was 37.0 gr. It will have a black mark on it in the pics. It did not seat to the ring. Could Wiki be off on their #'s per powder load?
I'm looking for any help I can get on actual 56-56 loads for the Sharps & Hankins Navy. Once again, the trick is.... this is an odd duck. It is not a 52 cal or 50 cal. as so many were. They all used the 56-50 case which was longer and could handle the powder as said. The 50-56 case will fit nicely in my chamber and I could use the case with a neck expander and enjoy the room for the powder charge spoken of. But Dixie does not make a 56-50 case set up for the rim fire conversion.
Yes --- I know! My hole, and I crawled into it. Not a problem, I get that. I'm just asking if anyone out there can give me some real specs on powder load for the 56-56 cartridge, or a direction to follow. I'm kinda on the figure of a miss print or wrong info. If the brass is the correct length and full top is at 43 gr and the info says 42-45 was the charge. There is something wrong. The last pics are of the final. The one with the black mark is the 40 gr with no card and it would not fit to the cut edge for diameter difference. Oops! forgot to mention. Pics 2 and 3 should show the trim cut. It goes from the stem being .524 to the bullet diameter at .544. It's a small mushroom style bullet. It's odd - but true. If all my #'s did not match. I would say it's a miss-match. All I ever see about the Navy 1862 rifle is 52 cal and some at 50 cal. Army also for that matter. Yet the Spencer bullet mold tells some story. I just don't know how they connect.
Thanks again to all.