Quaterdeck of HMS Hero, 1860

What guns are those on deck? Are they Armstrong's?
Warrior has several types of guns. Wiki:

The latter two types are Armstrongs, yes.

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I wonder how would have fared, up against one of the big steam frigates like the Minnesota, a real a very real possibility in 1862.
 
I wonder how would have fared, up against one of the big steam frigates like the Minnesota, a real a very real possibility in 1862.
Unfortunately the one sim game I know of, Ironclads, does not include a suitable stand-in for HMS Hero. Any thoughts on this, @rebelatsea ?
 
Same time frame, no idea of the exact location.
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I think that is the Victoria and Albert on the left, Queen Victoria and Prince Albert used her to cross to the Isle of Wight on occasions when one the smaller yachts wasn't available, Doesn't seem to be a review (not enough ships) . However the Liner is dressed overall so a special event of some sort. Perhaps it's a Foreign dignitary being escorted, which some times happened. I'd guess at the Solent or Spithead.
 
Unfortunately the one sim game I know of, Ironclads, does not include a suitable stand-in for HMS Hero. Any thoughts on this, @rebelatsea ?
Thanks Andy !
Hero had 10 -110pdr Armstrong rifles fitted on the Main deck when she went out to the North America & west indies station, these replaced an equivalent number of 32pdrs.
Gun deck; 34 -8"/65cwt, Main deck; 34 -32pdr /56cwt, upper deck; 22 -32pdr /45cwt , 1 -68pdr 95cwt
I think a single ship action with Hero and Minnesota unlikely, but if it did happen , Minnesota would have to hope that she could inflict crippling damage with her rifles before Hero got to broadside range.
 
Thanks Andy !
Hero had 10 -110pdr Armstrong rifles fitted on the Main deck when she went out to the North America & west indies station, these replaced an equivalent number of 32pdrs.
Gun deck; 34 -8"/65cwt, Main deck; 34 -32pdr /56cwt, upper deck; 22 -32pdr /45cwt , 1 -68pdr 95cwt
I think a single ship action with Hero and Minnesota unlikely, but if it did happen , Minnesota would have to hope that she could inflict crippling damage with her rifles before Hero got to broadside range.

Minnesota was armed with smoothbores:
Gun deck 28 9" Dahlgren
Spar deck 14 8" Paixhans type, 2 10" Dahlgren pivots
She may have received a few rifles during the Civil War, but probably not as many as Hero's 10 Armstrongs.
 
Thanks Andy !
Hero had 10 -110pdr Armstrong rifles fitted on the Main deck when she went out to the North America & west indies station, these replaced an equivalent number of 32pdrs.
Gun deck; 34 -8"/65cwt, Main deck; 34 -32pdr /56cwt, upper deck; 22 -32pdr /45cwt , 1 -68pdr 95cwt
I think a single ship action with Hero and Minnesota unlikely, but if it did happen , Minnesota would have to hope that she could inflict crippling damage with her rifles before Hero got to broadside range.

Minnesota was armed with smoothbores:
Gun deck 28 9" Dahlgren
Spar deck 14 8" Paixhans type, 2 10" Dahlgren pivots
She may have received a few rifles during the Civil War, but probably not as many as Hero's 10 Armstrongs.
It's interesting that the 91 gun Hero and the 44 gun Minnesota aren't that far apart when it comes to weight of broadside. Hero 3628 lbs (or 4408 lbs with 110pdr Armstongs.) and Minnesota 3498 lbs (4010lbs in Dec 1862 increasing to 4500lbs in Oct 1863). The Hero probably has an edge after the initial broadside due to the 32pdrs firing faster than the Minnesota's heavier guns. But still not that great of a mis-match.

Shell/shot weights from the ordnance chart in Civil War Navies 1855-1883-Paul H. Silverstone page xxi.
 
Quarterdeck of HMS Hero, the 91-gun steam battleship that brought the Prince of Wales to Canada and to Portland, Maine in 1860. Library of Congress image.

The main gun deck of Warrior -- the warship that helped make vessels like Hero obsolete -- looks very much like Victory, as well.

The first thing that caught my eye in these photos were the huge ropes needed to secure those weapons. The cost of the amount of cordage that the RN consumed yearly must have been more than most navy's entire budgets. And now throw in the block and tackle. Was it a Brunel who set up the first factory for producing in an economic fashion these necessities? An industrial revolution...Great pics - those ropes look about as thick as my arm...

Cheers,
USS ALASKA
 
Was it a Brunel who set up the first factory for producing in an economic fashion these necessities?
It was Isambard Kingdom Brunel's father, Marc. In c. 1802 he established a block making factory at Portsmouth. If one considers a block very simple machine, that was the first set of machinery designed to produce other machines.
 
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The first thing that caught my eye in these photos were the huge ropes needed to secure those weapons. The cost of the amount of cordage that the RN consumed yearly must have been more than most navy's entire budgets. And now throw in the block and tackle. Was it a Brunel who set up the first factory for producing in an economic fashion these necessities? An industrial revolution...Great pics - those ropes look about as thick as my arm...

Cheers,
USS ALASKA
Properly looked after and maintained, natural fibre ropes can last for many years. The demand for natural fibre ropes versus artificial substitutes is increasing, s much so that the ropewalk in Chatham Historic dockyard is being kept increasingly busy and is doing good business.
 
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