POST CIVIL WAR Martini Henry bayonets portrayed as P53 Enfield bayonet

Adam1stVa

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Just informed another seller on Ebay that they were portraying a POST CIVIL WAR Martini Henry breach loader bayonet as being for the Pattern 1853 Enfield Rifle Musket. I think there are many out there who disagree or don't know the difference Want to make sure everyone on this forum knows the differences:
P53 blade 4+ inches shorter; P53 is flared away from the muzzle area to allow room for loading when fixed, Martini Henry is straight down the barrel; cross section of Martini Henry bayonet is equal sided (equilateral triangle), the P53 cross section has two shorter sides (isosceles triangle).
Most obvious differences are with the scabbards: Martini Henry has a steel spline riveted inside it to help support the 21+ inch blade, and the scabbard was designed to bend at the juncture of the brass tip to allow for stooping and carrying such a long blade at the waste.
 

tbuckley

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Many years ago, I bought a Martini bayonet thinking it was a P53. Part of the learning process. At least it makes a cool candle holder.
 

Adam1stVa

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One thing about the P53 bayonet is they don't interchange, so you can look high a low to find one that will fit your P53 Enfield
Yea, I had to haul my P53 up to the Horse Soldier in Gettysburg to get one to fit correctly. It's still a few thousandths big, but appropriately snug.
 

JimW

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Just informed another seller on Ebay that they were portraying a POST CIVIL WAR Martini Henry breach loader bayonet as being for the Pattern 1853 Enfield Rifle Musket. I think there are many out there who disagree or don't know the difference Want to make sure everyone on this forum knows the differences:
P53 blade 4+ inches shorter; P53 is flared away from the muzzle area to allow room for loading when fixed, Martini Henry is straight down the barrel; cross section of Martini Henry bayonet is equal sided (equilateral triangle), the P53 cross section has two shorter sides (isosceles triangle).
Most obvious differences are with the scabbards: Martini Henry has a steel spline riveted inside it to help support the 21+ inch blade, and the scabbard was designed to bend at the juncture of the brass tip to allow for stooping and carrying such a long blade at the waste.


It would be great if there were pictures of them side by side? Could you provide to elaborate on the difference?
 

Adam1stVa

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It would be great if there were pictures of them side by side? Could you provide to elaborate on the difference?
There should be a side by side comparison photo on line. Measure the blade. If it is 17+ inches, has the 2 shorter sides, and flares away from the muzzle, its for a P53. Martini Henry blade is 21+ inches with equal width sides and no flare away from the muzzle because its for a breach loader. Sockets vary in diameter, even if all were made to fit the P53. Basically, the Pattern 1853 really does fit the description: "Hand Made".
 

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