You start a war, you'd better be prepared for the consequences.
The Southern leadership underestimated the will of the North. Then they refused to accept the reality of that war and continued it far longer than necessary.
It takes two to fight and only one to win.
The US was based on a very different code ("all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...") An imperfect nation, it has struggled mightly to live up to this code, resulting in things like the Civil War as its flaws are fought out.The USA was based on that very unethical code. That anyone defends its existence is a discredit to them.
The people of the rebel states were entitled to be free, all the people - white and black.But tell me, why weren't the people of the CSA entitled to their political independence? Why make war over that?
The US was based on a very different code ("all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...") An imperfect nation, it has struggled mightly to live up to this code, resulting in things like the Civil War as its flaws are fought out.
In contrast, the CSA was created as a rejection of the US ethical code, preferring forced slavery over freedom (as Texas put it "the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race" or Mississippi " Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery "),
"All men are created equal"? I'm expected to believe that that was the guiding sentiment of the Slave-Rebellion of 1776? Let's not forget that the fellow who wrote those words thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery himself, inasmuch as he owned approximately 200 human beings, slaves, who he held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race. So much for that "all men are created equal" nonsense. The USA was founded by white-supremacists, slavers, tax-cheats, secessionists, and traitors. Unethical miscreants when you get get right down to it.
The people of the rebel states were entitled to be free, all the people - white and black.
And so was "loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword"
Something worth fighting and dying for, the country they saved and left for us to continue protecting.
They may have been "Unethical miscreants", Jefferson being among the worst, but they recognized their shortcomings and aspired to a better future. I personally think aspiring to achieve freedom and equality is a good thing; but I understand your opinion differs. That's what the preamble to the Declaration of independence is -- an aspiration. Regrettably progress has been slow and painful, especially with obstacles like confederate rebels
It was not really that big an obstacle -- the US made trafficking illegal (despite efforts of southern states) and the navy was deployed to stop it. Some illegal activity continued but very little and those pesky New Englanders did things like defended the kidnapped africans in court (see Amistad case) securing them their freedomThe real obstacles were the ruthless New England slave-traffickers....
It was not really that big an obstacle -- the US made trafficking illegal (despite efforts of southern states) and the navy was deployed to stop it. Some illegal activity continued but very little and those pesky New Englanders did things like defended the kidnapped africans in court (see Amistad case) securing them their freedom
@Duncan ,Worth dying for? Not for Abraham Lincoln's precious baby boy. While the horrific carnage wore on, and mother's lost their sons, wives lost their hubands, and sons and daughters lost their fathers, Lincoln's little boy got to play soldier safely tucked away from the front line danger on Gran'ts staff. Worth dying for indeed.
Gee, what a wonderful thing free speech is. But if you dare to choose simple political independence and self-government, the guns will open fire and the bloody merciless slaughter will commence. Just like under the rule of any King, Dictator, Military Junta, or Mafia Don. Lincoln betrayed the sacred right to alter and abolish systems of government and made a mockery of the equally sacred idea of government by consent. And we are all diminished by his presidency.@Duncan ,
Yes, worth dying for to preserve for future generations. Now the fact of the matter is, there was this assumption by the Confederate leadership that the rest of the nation would back down and didn't have the will to fight. The US was not Lincoln's baby, it was all of the citizens who decided on their own that their nation, their form of government, should be preserved.
The rest of the US citizens gutted out four years of bloody civil war because, in the end, they knew they were fighting for something more, something better, a better future that even Jefferson Davis came to realize after the war.
In my own time, in the military, when serving in foreign nations, I have seen dictatorships, kings, and military rule in several of the nations I was stationed at. NONE of them governed well. Coming back to the US was like a breath of fresh air. People were not afraid to speak their minds, criticize their government officials, nor protest their actions. What a change it was back in the USA!
You want to pick at the edges and find fault, I'm sure you will be able to do so. But in the end, when all is said and done, this world is better for having the nation Lincoln saved in it, than without it.
And it is indeed far better off not having the Confederacy in it.
It was worth the cost.
The Confederacy never believed in the idea of government by consent, they believed in government by the lash
And we are all elevated by their failure
Well then you should agree that it was a great thing that Lincoln presided over the end of there being "slave" statesGovernment of the lash? Sounds serious. Actually it sounds just like the U.S. And we are all degraded by its slave States.