1. supremacy clauseCan you show me a prohibition against secession in the Constitution? Can you show me a federal statute which defines it as a criminal offense?
Who knows, US history heritage has been on the downside for some time.How bad has it become for confederate apologists nowadays? Seriously? Is this your strategy for defending the secessionists?
If so, "confederate heritage" will fade away even faster than I predicted. Maybe one more generation.
1. supremacy clause
2. Armed Resistance to federal law is generally a criminal offense
see this post:
I am creating this thread as a companion piece to my thread; https://civilwartalk.com/threads/did-lincoln-follow-precedents-set-by-previous-presidents-when-dealing-with-the-secession-rebellion-of-the-southern-states.169547/ Here I'm looking for any evidence from supreme court cases, either as...civilwartalk.com
That has nothing to do with the legitimacy of a country. The US didn't become a nation until France diplomatically recognized it. Until then it was merely a rebellious colony. There is a reason why new nations but time and money into trying to be diplomatically recognized.
How so?1. The Supremacy Clause is an affirmation of the right of secession
Im referring to the actual events in which a lawless rebellion defied federal authority and was therefore supressed, not whatever counter factual events you are talking about.2. I'm sure it is. But that has nothing to do with the CSA fighting an international war of self-defense in order to repel a lawless invasion.
Im referring to the actual events in which a lawless rebellion defied federal authority and was therefore supressed, not whatever counter factual events you are talking about.
If Secession was legal the states that seceded would of gotten an injunction from the courts. It also would not have been an issue to begin with.The text of the Constitution has already provided the answers to my question. And if there was a prohibition against secession in there, you would show it to me immediately. And we both know it.
In order to be a nation said entity must must be recognized by at least one other nation. Any break away region can write what ever they want but that doesn't make them a nation.Better re-read it. Pay particular attention to the closing paragraph. Here's what the copy I'm reading says:
"That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do."
Does your copy say something about waiting for diplomatic recognition from France before the Colonies became States and were therefore entitled "to do all other acts and things which Independent States may of right do"? Because mine sure doesn't.
PS- Better spread the word that America's Independence Day is actually February 6th. Everyone I know thinks it is July 4.
In order to be a nation said entity must must be recognized by at least one other nation. Any break away region can write what ever they want but that doesn't make them a nation.
We have past threads where this issue was throughly debated.
If Secession was legal the states that seceded would of gotten an injunction from the courts. It also would not have been an issue to begin with.
Laws aren't based on our interpretations there based on statutory and case law.
Secession was illegal that's why the secession never sought judicial protection. If an action is legal there is no need for violence.If secession was illegal, the Constitution would prohibit it. Or there would be federal legislation defining it as a crime. But there is neither. And if you could show me either, you would.
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