James Lutzweiler
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Were they differences, that to a visitor from Europe, would easily identify one as North and the other South?
Please advise how this addresses the OP.
Were they differences, that to a visitor from Europe, would easily identify one as North and the other South?
There is a difference between-theory and reality. Money and politics do influence the courts. Must we presume that lynching mobs of black people dacades after the civil war were innocent because the lynching mobs were never charged with murder. Are we not to question there guilt, is that the idea?Which means what?
Nor does a charge being dropped indicate guilt, your going in circles chasing your own tail...….what does indicate guilt or innocence is verdicts, barring none your just spinning opinion and conjecture...…. and lack of charges mean lack of verdicts, which leaves you at presumption of innocence under our system. Again what is a known and not conjecture, is he was convicted of nothing...….
If your suggesting we should have some entirely different justice system, think its beyond the scope of this thread
So lynching mobs of black people decades after the civil war is not an injustice if the mob is not charged with murder?Again said juror in said trials life would be in grave peril if he voted for a conviction.
Leftyhunter
Sounds as if you are the one advocating lynch mobs and judging people guilty who haven't been found of guilty of anything by due process of law, or were even charged with anything...….you cant have it both ways...….There is a difference between-theory and reality. Money and politics do influence the courts. Must we presume that lynching mobs of black people dacades after the civil war were innocent because the lynching mobs were never charged with murder. Are we not to question there guilt, is that the idea?
Actually closer to nine years, but whatever the time lapse, it would seem the Northern court was so unsure about an antebellum law that it deemed it necessary pass another law while the captive South was powerless during the throes of Radical Reconstruction.Court cases take years to get Supreme Court. Four years is relatively fast. Texas v.White was based in antebellum law.
Leftyhunter
So lynching mobs of black people decades after the civil war were never charged with murder because of a lack of credible evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt?
Should I have added Northern Copperheads as opposed to Lincoln's war of aggression?Please Add Southern Unionists and the African Americans that aided the United States as standing in the way of Southern Independence.
One of a bunch of possibilities.Forgone conclusion they were going to show up to either fight or proceede southbound, no?
@jgoodguy ,
Very much enjoyed going through the source material you posted above.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to do so.
Sincerely,
Unionblue
The South continued to believe that Anderson would be withdrawn up until
April 4, 1861.
The Copperheads took CSA gold and gave nothing but talk talk in return. I am not sure to add or subtract from Lincoln's war of liberation.Should I have added Northern Copperheads as to Lincoln's war of aggression?
Unfortunately that is correct. Most if not all perpetrators of lynchings went unpunished up until roughly fifty years ago.So lynching mobs of black people decades after the civil war is not an injustice if the mob is not charged with murder?
Please let's not divert into a Sunter debate and stay in VA as much as possible.The Confederate interception of Lincoln's letter to Anderson removed any lingering doubt about Lincoln's intentions.
Not sure what you mean by "captive South". Former Rebels who took a loyalty oath were quickly allowed to vote . The same former Rebels denied black Southerners the right to vote for a good one hundred .Actually closer to nine years, but whatever the time lapse, it would seem the Northern court was so unsure about an antebellum law that it deemed it necessary pass another law while the captive South was powerless during the throes of Radical Reconstruction.
PlantationsWere they differences, that to a visitor from Europe, would easily identify one as North and the other South?
This is false. The Radical governments in the South disfranchised as many whites as they could.Not sure what you mean by "captive South". Former Rebels who took a loyalty oath were quickly allowed to vote . The same former Rebels denied black Southerners the right to vote for a good one hundred .
Leftyhunter
No it us not . President Johnson quickly pardoned all the Rebels.This is false. The Radical governments in the South disfranchised as many whites as they could.
So prejudice in the courts in the south after the civil war never existed?If you had read more closely what I actually wrote you would have duly noted that I referred to cases brought before the courts.
The Copperheads took CSA gold and gave nothing but talk talk in return. I am not sure to add or subtract from Lincoln's war of liberation.
If white Southerners weren't under duress, Radical reconstruction would have ended, in at least nine of the states, shortly after "former rebels" received the vote.Not sure what you mean by "captive South". Former Rebels who took a loyalty oath were quickly allowed to vote . The same former Rebels denied black Southerners the right to vote for a good one hundred .
Leftyhunter
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