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Newspapers accounts of Stonewall Jackson's two funerals - something is amiss

Discussion in 'Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson' started by E_just_E, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. War Horse

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    You and your timelines. Lol
     

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    First laugh of the day (a little late) --> goes to @War Horse

    That brick of a book is winking at me from the shelf :smile:
     
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    You have not seen the tip of my timeline iceberg, my friend :wink:
    Got to read the official Union reports to newspaper correspondents on July 3, 1863 from Meade's HQs at 5:00 PM and 7:15 PM coming (kinda) shortly to a place near you...
     
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    I'm not sure I understand this. I can tell you my father told me a story once. He fought in WWII and never spoke of it. When he told me the story, it was like he was there again. Sometimes, bullets, blood and death sear a memory into someone's mind and they can recall the details accurately for the rest of their life.
     
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    Agreed. Individual perspectives esp. traumatic events are ingrained and they are always there. And in a weird way that our brains work the details are there (like what shoes one was wearing or what color was their shirt or or or) but the bigger picture tends to fade after time and when people are asked about the bigger picture, they even say they do not know, or they use commonly accepted material about what happened in the bigger picture.
     
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    No argument here. Most were not aware of the big picture to begin with.
     
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    As the Jackson House in Lexington was mentioned, if I remember correctly what the guide there told us it stood empty after Jackson's death as Anna had preferred to live with her family. It slowly started to decay when the local UDC chapter thought something must be done about it. They knew that Anna would never sell the house that Jackson had bought more or less for her. So they told her the house was needed because Lexington needed a hospital. Anna would not refuse to sell the house if others could be helped, so she agreed. The UDC had not intended to use it as a hospital at first but wanted to establish a museum, but now they felt they had cheated Anna on that and decided that the house would indeed better be used as a hospital. And so it was.
     
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    Here is a letter Smith wrote about accompanying Mrs. Jackson to Lexington and North Carolina after Stonewall's death:

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    Henry Kyd Douglas is the source for the lemons.
     
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    As far as I can tell, Richard Taylor was first (and certainly most complete) with the lemon story. He claims in Destruction and Reconstruction that Jackson's diet during the Valley Campaign consisted of hard tack, lemons, and water. Taylor often seemed more interested in being colorful than in being accurate, though. He certainly was colorful--he obsessed about Jackson's "huge feet."
     
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    We visited Jackson's headquarters, a lovely house he shared for a brief time with his wife, in Winchester a couple of summers ago. Our tour guide was a very elderly lady who was a devoted Jackson fan. She cautioned us that the lemon stories were greatly exaggerated. Nonetheless, we found his grave with numerous lemons strewn about in tribute later that day.
     
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    Do you recall the name of the house?
     
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    The headquarters house in Winchester (the one currently operated a museum) was originally called "Alta Vista." I think it's now exclusively called Jackson's Headquarters.
     
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    And it was Douglas who said TJ used one like a baton during a battle, pointing with it, gesticulating, getting all excited, etc.
     
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    SharonS is correct. It's now known as The Stonewall Jackson's Headquarters Museum. It's located at 415 North Braddock Street in the Historic District of Winchester. It is loaded with fantastic memorabilia. Our tour guide actually let us touch some of the items which was somewhat shocking. Sadly she was not a General Longstreet fan. I bit my tongue a lot!
     
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    I am envious regarding all who got to see the Stonewall Headquarters. It was on my A list when we were in Winchester but, they close at 4:00 pm so we couldn't get there because we were on the road seeing places like Antietam. I was seriously bummed not to see it (and also not to see the Patsy Cline house, which also closed at 4:00). Did I mention I'm bummed I didn't get to see the Stonewall Headquarters ?
     
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    Alta Vista in May, 2015 during my last visit there:

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    It's not very unusual that Anna would not be mentioned by name in that period. I was researching a murder that happened a few decades previously, in which the husband ambushed and killed a man who was having an affair with his wife, and the woman is invariably referred to as "Mrs. ________," never with a first or maiden name. And she's the turning point of the whole, sordid story. It's very frustrating for anyone trying to track these people through various records.
     
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