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New Orleans Rewrites History...On Its Lampposts

Discussion in 'Civil War History - General Discussion' started by Pat Young, Mar 18, 2017.

  1. cash

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    No contradiction. They asked if the mayor's office is going to consider removing them. They didn't raise an objection, they just asked if the mayor's office is going to add them to the list of things under consideration for removal.
     

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  3. 1stMS-Arty

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    LoL
     
  4. Bee

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    Brooks Simpson:

    Dean of Honors College at ASU, prolific speaker and author, respected presidential historian/expert (often called upon to comment on the local TV news programs regarding current politics), Ulysses S Grant scholar, misguided Isles hockey fan :devilish:
     
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  5. 1stMS-Arty

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    and micro aggression interpreter of lamp posts in New Orleans:bounce:
     
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    Abraham Lincoln should've abolish the Democrat Party when he had a chance.
     
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  7. Bee

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    Okay...it took me a but to unravel this kerfuffle.

    1. The media outlet who put out this story, originally, was seeking to get a rise out of the Pro-Monument folks with the "removal" comment....and they succeeded.

    2. A side-bar to this tempest-in-a-teapot is how embarrassingly inaccurate the statements on the lamp bases are

    3. As a result, some folks have taken the stick being poked at them and rammed it clear through the other side

    4. Brooks Simpson has a wicked sense of humour :devilish:
     
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  8. 1stMS-Arty

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    and @Pat Young sucessfully sicked you and @cash on me....good job Lol

    guess that will teach me:confused:
     
  9. Bee

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    Has nothing to do with you, particularly: It took me a bit to unravel what the article was originally about. I tend to bee rather linear and miss subtle humour. I threw out my interpretation of the whole kit-n-caboodle to see if I was on or off popular interpretation.

    Full Disclosure: I am a fan of Brooks Simpson (Pat knows it, so it was more on me than you), so I capitalized on the opportunity to say a few nice things....and state the truth about his hockey choices :devilish:

    It is not in my nature to pick fights with people in the late hours -- too tired.
     
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  10. Drew

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    FWIW, NW Louisiana was never conquered by any invading Army. It was never ruled, after the war, by any occupying Army. They threw in the towel sometime around 1975, I think, if even that.

    :sabre:
     
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  11. Pat Young

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    Not "sicking" people on you. Cash and Bee are frequent commenters over at the Crossroads blog. I believe that cash has known Dr. Simpson for a while.
     
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    New Orleans was liberated by Union forces in April 1862. You don't have to be "offended" to know that the city was not under the domination of the Confederacy from 1863-1865.
     
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    Confederates were Americans. So American "Domination" (terrible word choice) includes Confederates. At the very least it should be USA and CSA, not Americans and Confederates.
     
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  14. O' Be Joyful

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    Really, they didn't surrender until 1975? Now that is determination. And to think some people thought Lt. Hiroo Onoda had been out of touch, so to speak.:smile:

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    In 1944, Onoda was sent to the small island of Lubang in the western Philippines to spy on U.S. forces in the area. Allied forces defeated the Japanese imperial army in the Philippines in the latter stages of the war, but Onoda, a lieutenant, evaded capture. While most of the Japanese troops on the island withdrew or surrendered in the face of oncoming American forces, Onoda and a few fellow holdouts hid in the jungles, dismissing messages saying the war was over.

    After losing his comrades to various circumstances, Onoda was eventually persuaded to come out of hiding in 1974.
    His former commanding officer traveled to Lubang to see him and tell him he was released from his military duties.
    In his battered old army uniform, Onoda handed over his sword, nearly 30 years after Japan surrendered..
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/world/asia/japan-philippines-ww2-soldier-dies/
     
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    Brooks and I have been internet friends for almost 20 years, and real world friends for almost 10 years.
     
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  16. Bee

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    I tried to look at this statement from all angles, and sides, but, the problem was a specific example kept coming to mind: German occupied France in WWII. I would be hard pressed to say that France was still ruling France. I dare not swerve any further into modern politics et al, but it was the example that came to mind.
     
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    Must admit I enjoy this gray snowflake response to a blog. Now, given that the guidebook says that the lightposts commemorated New Orleans history, perhaps you should trust that over a newspaper article that seems designed to troll certain people (and may have worked as we see from your reaction!).
     
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  18. contestedground

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    Kinda irrelevant given why the city put up the lightposts and what the guide said about commemorating New Orleans history ... jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. :bounce:
     
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    Not a good analogy. Louisiana was not 'occupied' by Union forces, save New Orleans and a few southeastern parishes. They tried and failed. The state capital was moved to Shreveport when NO fell and that city served as provisional capital of the Confederate States after the fall of Richmond. Here are a few pics I took in Shreveport on my last visit:

    Fort Humbug Memorial.jpg

    Fort Humbug Column Marker.jpg
     
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    Judging from what I see here, he was on the mark as regards to the reaction. Funny.
     
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  21. contestedground

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    All true. But didn't the Yankees establish their own loyalist government, too? Based, as I recall, in (gasp!) New Orleans?
     

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