Tell me more! N. H. Tin Cup

ironmannf

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Hi Everyone,
I had such good luck with my last post, I figured why not try my luck again to see if I can get some help with my N.H. tin cup. The cup measures 4 1/4" wide by 3" high, and is stamped on the side "STEVENS & DUNCKLEE, CONCORD N.H. and the bottom has the initials "HP" scratched into it. I recall hearing that either Don Troniani and/or the North & South Trader had an article about a N.H. cup similar to this one. Any information you guys could supply me with would be awesome (pictures attached).

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DixieRifles

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I wish I had a dimension or two. Either it is short or very wide. I guess the handle would be a standard size--- ~3/4 inch.
 

ironmannf

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Thanks. It IS a wide cup. Didn't notice the taper of the handle.

I may build one for my 1/6-scale Lieutenant.
If your building a cup you might like to build this one (pictures attached). I bought is cup from the late Dale C Anderson many, many years ago and he told me that it was Confederate and I still have the original catalog that lists it. The cup measures, 4 1/8" wide by 3 1/8" high with a handle that measure 3/4" at the top and tapers to 1/2" at the bottom.

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ironmannf

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Excellent photos. The detail and shape of that handle is exquisite for tinware. I wondered how they made these cups and kept them somewhat water proof. My scale model will not have that much detail. I'm just aiming for a general form and trying not to make it match the shape of a modern Starbucks cup.
Yes, it's a beautiful cup indeed and I thought that you would enjoy it. Those guys back in the day surly had some talent. Send me pics of your finished project, as I would enjoy looking at them.
 

DixieRifles

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Got to ask, what kind of cannon is that?

A Confederate Williams Gun---a 1.562-inch caliber, rapid-fire, smooth bore, breech-loader.
Search CWT and you will find a lengthy discussion on it. Beware that the discussion was going on while many details of the gun and the battery were not fully known.
 

Package4

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Hi Everyone,
I had such good luck with my last post, I figured why not try my luck again to see if I can get some help with my N.H. tin cup. The cup measures 4 1/4" wide by 3" high, and is stamped on the side "STEVENS & DUNCKLEE, CONCORD N.H. and the bottom has the initials "HP" scratched into it. I recall hearing that either Don Troniani and/or the North & South Trader had an article about a N.H. cup similar to this one. Any information you guys could supply me with would be awesome (pictures attached).

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Look for NST v XIII No. 3 Mar-Apr 1986 issue for the article
 

DixieRifles

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Is the Williams Gun designed similar in operation to the Gatling Gun with a hand crank and feed tube?

No. The crank turned a cam that moved the breech block forward and aft. You hand loaded a cartridge wrapped in combustible cloth and primed a nipple on the left side. Rather slow and dangerous---if the round blew when you had the breech open or you opened it too quickly. Still, those in the field said it could shoot 25 RPM.

I don't want to steel ironman's thread. Come to the CWT Tour of Vicksburg and I will give a talk and show how it works with my model.
 
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