My Holy Grail 1860 Spencer Carbine

Jorma99

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I have been looking for many years for an 1860 model Spencer Carbine. What I wanted: 1860 model not converted, nice looking with all parts working, and a gun I could afford. Finally found what I wanted at a very small gun shop in northern Vermont. My wife and I were vacationing in Woodstock, VT. Did some homework and made some calls. The shop was about a two-hour drive. Well worth it. The owner was a retired One Star General. He was a wealth of information and had some very interesting items.
The serial number is 38952. I do believe this number would put it in the war period. Found two marks of “M” one on the trigger the other on the guard. Am I correct in assuming they are inspector marks. The stock has 13 small dots carved into the wood. I wonder? Can anyone give me assistance on the serial #numb
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Congrats, looks like a nice piece
I have been looking for many years for an 1860 model Spencer Carbine. What I wanted: 1860 model not converted, nice looking with all parts working, and a gun I could afford. Finally found what I wanted at a very small gun shop in northern Vermont. My wife and I were vacationing in Woodstock, VT. Did some homework and made some calls. The shop was about a two-hour drive. Well worth it. The owner was a retired One Star General. He was a wealth of information and had some very interesting items.
The serial number is 38952. I do believe this number would put it in the war period. Found two marks of “M” one on the trigger the other on the guard. Am I correct in assuming they are inspector marks. The stock has 13 small dots carved into the wood. I wonder? Can anyone give me assistance on the serial #numbView attachment 356027View attachment 356028View attachment 356029View attachment 356026wonder?
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ucvrelics

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Nice Spencer, It is not listed in the SRS and below is the range. Could you post a photo of the underneath of the receiver with the load lever pulled all the way down? Thanks.

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Jorma99

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Nice Spencer, It is not listed in the SRS and below is the range. Could you post a photo of the underneath of the receiver with the load lever pulled all the way down? Thanks.

38775 60C 09 64 CO E 19TH NY VOL CAV
38900 60C 65 CO M 2ND NY VOL CAV
39011 60C 03 65 CO L 2ND NY VOL CAV

Not exactly sure of what you wanted but here are some shots of what I think you want. Please advise. Do you know the year this gun was manufactured in? Also the descriptions of the units above make no sense to me can you elaborate? Thanks so much.
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ucvrelics

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I was looking to see if it had the Stabler cutoff installed which was used to cut down on ammo use.
 

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The Stabler Cutoff was a lever that was fitted from the large screw just forward of the cocking lever assembly and it would fit into the notch of the cocking lever. While I've seen it fitted primarily to Model 1865's it could also be easily retrofitted to a Model 1860. BTW you have a fine looking piece.
 

Jorma99

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The Stabler Cutoff was a lever that was fitted from the large screw just forward of the cocking lever assembly and it would fit into the notch of the cocking lever. While I've seen it fitted primarily to Model 1865's it could also be easily retrofitted to a Model 1860. BTW you have a fine looking piece.
This is correct many 1860 models were retrofitted using the stabler cutoff. Also, many soldiers took their carbines home and modified them to better suit hunting etc. My goal was to find a piece in original condition, all parts working and in good cosmetic condition. It is difficult finding one but then the price tag is rather hefty. I was fortunate to find it at a reasonable price.
 

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