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For some time I have been working on finding out whether or not a photo I have I believe is Abraham Lincoln in Death. It has been featured by Barry Caucheon twice, once as Treasures in the Attic 1, and more recently as State YOur Case 1, Lincoln in Death Photo. These can be found on his awesometalksblogLincoln in Death. It was also featured on June 17th of this year by a local television station WHAG, Hagerstown Md. This can be found by going to your4state.com, and searching for the date or Does Local Woman have Lincoln in Death Photo.:shrug:
It never ceases to amaze me that people will glance at the man in this photo, and yet never look at it. No one so far has commented on, contradicted or rebuked any of the points Mr. Owens has made in his pdf "Could this be Lincoln". Even worse is the standard response "it can't be a picture of Lincoln, because none were allowed to be taken" Lincoln was shot on April 14, Stantons order was not issued until April 25th. No one has taken the time to logically analyze the photo and make a logical response or comment. Simply saying you don't think it is him, does not reinforce your case that it is not. Prove us wrong.
To begin with, the night Lincoln was shot, it was a known fact, that even before he was removed from the booth at Fords theatre, that there was little or nothing that could be done for him. The comment was made that when he looked into his eyes, he knew it was a mortal would. No matter what medical care was given, the doctors knew he would not survive. This meant that all that was to be done was to keep him from being hurt any further, and keep him as comfortable as possible. There was little or no "care" to be given, and none that would have done more than possibly extend his life a few moments.
When I read the accounts of his death, one thing struck me, it was the lack of respect that was given him, and especially to Mary Todd Lincoln that night. How could they have "removed" her from the room. Did she not have the right to be with her dying husband? Whose hand do you think he would have preferred hold his, the doctor, or his wife? She was the First Lady, but was treated like an unenvolved bystander. I believe this picture was taken because Mrs. Lincoln wanted to have a picture of her husband to show Toddy of his father while he was still alive, she was noted as having sobbed "my poor Toddy, will he never see his father alive again" and the reason that it has not been "discovered" in all these years is that---in all these years every time in the past when someone brought it out saying "hey this looks like" they were berraged by the individuals and "experts" that had convinced themselves that it did not exist,and whoever had it beieved it and gave up and therefore it was dismissed and discarded until it ended up in some junk vendors collection of "just old photos".
This photo is a very unusual one, it is on paper, I believe it is what is called quadchrome carbo print process, the most elaborate and expensive method photography at the time. It is also mounted on some type of leather, which is also very unusual, but along with a carbo print having the properties of being a type of photography that was known last for a long time, mounting it on leather instead of paper, would also help preserve it. Signs that who did the photo was doing their best to make sure it would be around for some time.
It never ceases to amaze me that people will glance at the man in this photo, and yet never look at it. No one so far has commented on, contradicted or rebuked any of the points Mr. Owens has made in his pdf "Could this be Lincoln". Even worse is the standard response "it can't be a picture of Lincoln, because none were allowed to be taken" Lincoln was shot on April 14, Stantons order was not issued until April 25th. No one has taken the time to logically analyze the photo and make a logical response or comment. Simply saying you don't think it is him, does not reinforce your case that it is not. Prove us wrong.
To begin with, the night Lincoln was shot, it was a known fact, that even before he was removed from the booth at Fords theatre, that there was little or nothing that could be done for him. The comment was made that when he looked into his eyes, he knew it was a mortal would. No matter what medical care was given, the doctors knew he would not survive. This meant that all that was to be done was to keep him from being hurt any further, and keep him as comfortable as possible. There was little or no "care" to be given, and none that would have done more than possibly extend his life a few moments.
When I read the accounts of his death, one thing struck me, it was the lack of respect that was given him, and especially to Mary Todd Lincoln that night. How could they have "removed" her from the room. Did she not have the right to be with her dying husband? Whose hand do you think he would have preferred hold his, the doctor, or his wife? She was the First Lady, but was treated like an unenvolved bystander. I believe this picture was taken because Mrs. Lincoln wanted to have a picture of her husband to show Toddy of his father while he was still alive, she was noted as having sobbed "my poor Toddy, will he never see his father alive again" and the reason that it has not been "discovered" in all these years is that---in all these years every time in the past when someone brought it out saying "hey this looks like" they were berraged by the individuals and "experts" that had convinced themselves that it did not exist,and whoever had it beieved it and gave up and therefore it was dismissed and discarded until it ended up in some junk vendors collection of "just old photos".
This photo is a very unusual one, it is on paper, I believe it is what is called quadchrome carbo print process, the most elaborate and expensive method photography at the time. It is also mounted on some type of leather, which is also very unusual, but along with a carbo print having the properties of being a type of photography that was known last for a long time, mounting it on leather instead of paper, would also help preserve it. Signs that who did the photo was doing their best to make sure it would be around for some time.