- Nov 17, 2015
Dear 7th Mississippi Infantry, Greetings,For an official "in house" government document, I actually enjoyed reading this report. It's a shame that so damage to the USS Cairo occurred during the twelve years she sat waiting to be preserved in 1960s & 70s.
I say thank you for leading the effort to preserve the Maple Leaf.What say you?
Prinary Maple Leaf thread? I didn't know there was one. I'll search it. This is absolutely unbelievable. Some State or Federal agency has by carelessness, overt, or willful action allowed this to happen.I say thank you for leading the effort to preserve the Maple Leaf. I’ve provided a link to your updates within the primary Maple Leaf thread. Keep up the great work and keep us updated about this latest situation with the telecommunication company.
Keith, please accept my apologies re: any confusion.Prinary Maple Leaf thread? I didn't know there was one.
Stumbled upon this, worth sharingA (Mostly) Complete Civil War Naval Bibliography (VI of VI)
Purcell, Patrick E. (ed.) This Jolly Little Gunboat: The USS Winona On the Gulf Coast and Mississippi River, 1861-1863. Iowa City IA: Camp Pope Bookshop Press, 2014. 190 pp.
And given the above quote...Yeah-- problem here is that once one starts analyzing the blockade, one is almost immediately led out of the strictly military sphere and into economics, politics/policy, and foreign relations... I think one can't properly deal with the topic without taking a multidisciplinary approach.
That's the Spanish-American War Merrimac, a collier that was intentionally sunk in an effort to bottle up the Spanish fleet in Santiago. (I often find myself reshelving it at Half Price Books from the Civil War section to the Naval History section...)The Sinking of the Merrimac by Richmond P Hobson Jr
Dear 7th Mississippi Infantry, Greetings,
I agree. It is a shame. We were, at the time, deeply involved with Vietnam!
Regrettably, but related to this very subject, I wish to inform you and Civilwartalk's members of a conflict between Maple Leaf National Historic Landmark shipwreck site and a dedicated cable crossing that portends major adverse impact to this nationally important shipwreck site.
Two weeks ago I learned that a fiber optic cable had been “trenched” over the site by Southern Bell and TW Telecom (now Level-3 Communications) with probably impact. Another fiber optic cable is planned to be place by Tower Cloud by directionally drilling a six inch steel casing which will contain multiple fiber optic cables. I surmise this new cable is being placed under the auspices of the Jacksonville Electric Authority (JEA) as per the City of Jacksonville’s “Telecommunications Master Plan”. Tower Cloud, however, is planning to accomplish this, to their credit and great expense, by directionally drilling sixty to eighty feet below the rivers bottom.
The Facts: On October 12, 1994 the Civil War Army Transport Maple Leaf, Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida was designated a National Historic Landmark by the 47th United States Secretary of the Interior, Bruce Babbitt. In July of 1998, a dedicated telecommunication cable crossing appeared in a revised Navigational Chart No. 11492, running from Orange Park, Florida (West) to Mandarin Point, Duval County (East). Within this crossing's center (N-S) is the entire 15.65 acres leased by SJAEI in 1988 for twenty years from the State of Florida's Board of Trustees Internal Improvement Trust Fund, Sovereignty Submerged Lands Use Agreement No. U-0176, and associated with Maple Leaf and General Hunter.
NHL Maple Leaf is centered within this 15.65 acre area. The ship’s hull is one hundred and eighty feet long pointing easterly, ninety degrees athwart the stream, and fully loaded with eight hundred thousand pounds of earning tonnage. The cargo consists of the personal effects of more than three thousand army infantrymen of the 112th NYV, 169th NYV, 1st. NY Engineers, 13th Indiana Vol., three sutler stores, and more. Edwin Bearss states that "The wreck of Maple Leaf is unsurpassed as a source for Civil War material culture. The site contains one of the largest ships during the war, carrying all the worldly goods of more than a thousand soldiers (sic 3,500), with a river bottom environment that perfectly preserved the ship and cargo. It is the most important repository of Civil War artifacts ever found and probably will remain so."
SJAEI, and many others are attempting to ferret out if Southern Bell's and TW Telecom's "trenched" fiber optic cable placements impacted this National Historic Shipwreck Site without State and Federal reviews mandated by federal law in section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act. According to official records the easement awarded them conflict, dead center, with National Historic Landmark Maple Leaf.
Our company led the effort to have ML recognized as a NHL. We abdicated our Federal Court Orders right to own eighty per cent of all material culture we recovered, because we realized what a unique and rare historic site ML was ~ in this regard she will never be surpassed. I personally spent enough money to "buy Miami" ~ and gave it, cheerfully, to State and Federal preservation agencies for the benefit of all the citizens of the United States who care about our ACW heritage. further, I assumed that Landmark status would bind her by a strong protective chain pursuant to Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation act of 1966. Apparently, the links of chain are made of sand.
All that is needed for the people dedicated to the pursuit of exploding the growth of telecommunication infrastructure to become powerful enough to dictate fiber optic transmission lines through, within, around, and under the forth designated NHL Shipwreck site is for those of us who care to do nothing.
What say you?
The two are essentially synonymous. The Confederate cruisers were engaged in the mission of commerce raiding.Does 'Confederate cruiser oprations' include commerce raiding? As a kid I was fascinated by the story of the Alabama and read everything I could find on the subject of commerce raiding.
Ah, okay...Sorry, I'm not well versed in the proper naval terminology.The two are essentially synonymous. The Confederate cruisers were engaged in the mission of commerce raiding.
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