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Is the history of USCT under discussed?

Discussion in 'Civil War History - General Discussion' started by major bill, Feb 14, 2017.

  1. major bill

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    In the last decade, at long last, historians are starting to include USCT in Civil War history. But is the contribution of United State Colored Troops sill under represented? We are talking about 175 black regiments raised during the war. The Union Army did not have 175 Irish Regiments or German Regiments, but both are often discussed.

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  3. Drew

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    Well, it's been nearly 30 years since the Hollywood Blockbuster, Glory, so I don't know it's accurate to say this hasn't been discussed. CWT's own @James N. was actually in the movie, if you want to ask him about it.

    Further discussion is welcome, but suggestion there hasn't been much is really not very accurate. I suppose it's all relative.
     
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  4. major bill

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    How many new statues have been erected honoring the USTC in the last 10 years? I do not know this and welcome someone tell us. How often were the USCT honored during the 150th remembrance celebrations? There have be a few new books about the USCT published.
     
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    I have to admit that I don't know much about ALL those 170+ regiments. However, from what I gather, most of the USCT regiments were employed with duties that kept them off the front lines. A small fraction of them participated in major battles---when you considered there were 175 regiments. I don't think many authors write books about a garrison on some lonely river fort some 300 miles behind the lines.
    But if I'm wrong then I guess you have made your point. I have been researching some of the regiments and individual soldiers so I'm not ignoring them. I still feel like I've a lot to learn.


    I hope that made sense with that.
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    I guess it is like asking: Is the History of the Home Guard units under discussed?
    There just isn't much out there about them.
     
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    How many have taken the Metro subway a few extra stops north of the Mall to visit the African-American Civil War Memorial??

    I did.
     
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  7. major bill

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    Black History Month would be a good time to give the USCT a look. A lot of black history will be presented this month and the USCT should get a bit of the lime light.
     
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    @huskerblitz had a thread on the first black regiment which was a state not federal regiment. The First Kansas Coloured Infantry was the only black COIN regiment in the Tans Mississippi.
    Leftyhunter
     
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    It would be great to get more USCT troops started in the Regimental Histories forum. I've been swamped the past couple of weeks to delve into them but will try this weekend.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    I don't think it should be a competititon between marginalized groups. Frankly, immigrants in the war are little discussed and little understood.
     
  12. major bill

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    Well I could see how many forum threads are about USCT. We seem to have some threads on Fort Pillow and perhaps a few threads on the Battle of the Crater, but not sure we discuss the USCT as regiments or even as individuals. Perhaps I am wrong about this.
     
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    No you are not wrong about this.
     
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    The one thing that puzzles me is how could someone who could an ex-slave transition from a cruel master to the rudimentary discipline of the US Army?
    No one has a real idea of what life was like as a slave. And all experiences were not the same. The transition to life in the Army could be difficult; not necessarily physically but mentally. For other ex-slaves, the Army life must have seemed like a summer camp.
    If you read the service records of the individual USCT soldiers, you might begin to see how many struggled under their new master-servant role. Discipline seemed to be a real problem. This could have been the result of boredom in a regiment that was not in active duty. Hollywood seems to portray the USCT soldier as an orphan needing a home, purpose and respect and their only enemy was the Army establishment.
    Or was it more complicated than that?
     
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    We have a thread on the USCT getting some payback for Ft.Pillow in a battle against a fort in Texas in 1865. I forgot the name of the battle.General Thomas thought highly of his USCT troops.
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  17. major bill

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    Although some of the reports may have some political bias, most Union Generals thought eh USCT under them served honorably.
     
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    I am going to eventually check out USCT regiments on Dyers Compendium to see if any were active COIN regiments. As mentioned most were involve in static defense which is a major component of COIN war.
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    I did a Google N-Gram Search of mentions of the United States Colored Troops in books. usct ngram.JPG
     
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  21. major bill

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    The mentions of the United States Colored Troops in books has seemed to have leveled off. I do see USCT discussed in a fair amount of government sponsored publications.
     

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