Is it possible to identify these artillery fragments from Gettysburg?


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I was able to look closer without disturbing the piece of uniform. It is marked Dowler Birmingham
Unfortunately the A button is a post war restrike, the Dowler buttons known to be war date all have a backmark "W Dowler Superior Quality" and no known artillery A buttons are known to exist either on uniforms or dug. Dowler did restrike buttons from the late 1880s all the way into the 1900s for reunion and other purposes. Most likely the collector did not know this at the time and purchased a reunion button for his display.
 
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The issue with early collections is the lack of research material available and the prevalence of Centennial and reunion retrikes by companies such as Bannerman and Stokes Kirk. Many early collections are full of reproductions and restrikes collected as originals. My early days of collecting were full of mistakes and I paid dearly.

Heck I was also on the lucky side as new research has converted a few Enfields from US arms to known Confederate purchases.

I'm following your eBay site and that collection has many incredible pieces, my favorites so far were the John Bachelder letter and the Appomattox Parole book!

Just be careful as there is no doubt that the original compiler of the collection either did not know he had many reproduction/restrikes or was using them as placeholders until he could replace with the real thing. I would say that most of the Confederate pieces are questionable.
 
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The issue with early collections is the lack of research material available and the prevalence of Centennial and reunion retrikes by companies such as Bannerman and Stokes Kirk. Many early collections are full of reproductions and restrikes collected as originals. My early days of collecting were full of mistakes and I paid dearly.

Heck I was also on the lucky side as new research has converted a few Enfields from US arms to known Confederate purchases.

I'm following your eBay site and that collection has many incredible pieces, my favorites so far were the John Bachelder letter and the Appomattox Parole book!

Just be careful as there is no doubt that the original compiler of the collection either did not know he had many reproduction/restrikes or was using them as placeholders until he could replace with the real thing. I would say that most of the Confederate pieces are questionable.
Thank you! I knew that the button was a restrike as soon as I was able to read it and looked it up :frown: when I replied to @ucvrelics I should have said unfortunately.

I agree about the lack of available research available to the original collector, and because of that there are restrikes in this collection. Before I started listing on eBay, I researched what I could, and then graciously sought second eyes from all of you experienced in this genre of collectors. Thank you to all who have exuded patience with my questions! In regards to the original collector, I can tell you he was not buying place holders, and thought he had war era pieces. UCVRelics told me the Confederate plates and buckles are repops, and I was glad that the original collector is no longer with us, so I only had to tell the inheritor, who took it well.

Thank you for checking out my eBay! You know, I passed over that letter several times because it was dated a decade after the war, so I was not interested. I only went back to it because that signature is so awesome that I wanted to know who spent the time to have such a presence in pen. When I realized what I had, I listed it immediately. The parole book was awesome too, and of course, as soon as I dropped it off at the post office to the winning bidder, I found reason to reference it for a letter in my possession.

I have many more great items to list! Thanks for your time and follow!
 



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