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Help ID my family photo!

Discussion in 'Period Civil War Photos & Examinations' started by DARling1985, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. DARling1985

    DARling1985 Cadet

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    IMG_6391.JPG Hi everyone! I am working on my family ancestry and a box of old photos and I can not figure out who it is in this photo. I came across this website last night when I was trying to identify uniforms and you all seem very knowledgeable! If you can answer 2 questions it would help me greatly!

    1) Did soldiers take portraits with non family members or are both these men probably in my family?
    2) I know I have have a father age 44 and son age 18 in my ancestry who served in the Ohio Volunteer Infantry during the Civil War in the 79th, 161st, and 193rd regiments. Do the uniforms in these photos match ones that those soldiers would have worn? If so it must be that father and son! If not, the other possibility is that it is my grandfather's uncle Dewey who served in WW1 and died of shrapnel wounds in France. So does this photo look civil war or ww1?

    Thanks much!
    Hilary
     
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  3. major bill

    major bill Captain Forum Host

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    Soldiers often took photographs with their friends. This is not civil War era photograph. these are not U.S. Army World War One uniforms either.
     
  4. major bill

    major bill Captain Forum Host

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    I am thinking they are not U.S. Army uniforms at all.
     
  5. AndyHall

    AndyHall Lt. Colonel Forum Host

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    What is the badge on the left arm?

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  6. Legion Para

    Legion Para Brigadier General Moderator Forum Host

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    Definitely not American Civil War uniforms, so this rules out your ancestors who served in the Ohio Volunteer Infantry.

    Definitely not WW I US Army issue uniforms.

    Photograph is probably pre WW I. The soldier sitting on the right is wearing collar insignia and a badge on his left sleeve. Unfortunately the clarity of the image prevents us from identifying them.

    I suggest you post it on the following forum.

    www.usmilitariaforum.com

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  7. 7th Mississippi Infantry

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    Hello Hilary.

    Welcome to Civil War Talk.

    I hope our experts can help identify these uniforms.
     
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  9. major bill

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    I will be very interested to have someone give us the right answer. I am fairly good with U.S. Army uniforms up until the end of the Spanish American War and then again starting in World War One. These could be a type of Army uniforms from the 1900 to 1915 period but I have my doubts. the seven button are consistent with Army blue uniforms, but not the cuffs or collars. I am also concerned with the badge on the arm. These do not to me look like the style of uniforms worn by the U.S. Army when the Army went to collar disks for enlisted me. I am leaving for Texas tomorrow morning and will not have an opportunity to study this in depth for a couple of weeks. Some one needs to study Army blue uniforms of the 1920-1930 period and also study European uniforms of the early 20th Century. A service other than the Army?
     
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    Pre-WWI Prussian uniforms possibly?
     
  11. Nathanb1

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    One thing you'll learn to do is to recognize hair styles by period...these are definitely around WWI. It will help you immensely, as will looking at collar styles--there is a tremendous difference! Good luck....you've gotten good advice on getting this identified!
     
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    I'm going out on a limb here but the big smile, the jaunty hand on hip, casual attitude does not suggest European. These guys look Canadian, American, or maybe Australian.
    They are clearly not Army uniforms- no pockets, no Sam Brown belts, no insignia. Pilots, medics, some sort of auxiliary service?
     
  13. Schwallanscher

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    i don't think so

    for starters, the collar got the same colour as the jacket
    on a prussian photo they'd not be so easy - they'd probably stood to attention and be moustached
     
  14. DARling1985

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    Thank you all for the help! You've helped me cross out some possibilities. I've done some more digging and if it is WW1 era, it is quite possibly my great uncle Dewey. I found an obit about him that said he was a member of the Jr O.U.A.M. And while I am having trouble locating anything but buttons and medals associated with the Jr OUAM, I feel like perhaps it might be a uniform belonging to that organization.
     
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    The badge on this arm resembles, in form, the OUAM badge. Too small and blurry to be sure, though.
     

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