- Feb 20, 2005
- South of the North 40
Used to own a large bore French Dragoon Rifle (Fusil de Dragoon) as tag on it said.. It was all brass mounted and dated 67 which I assume was date of conversion. It was a shorter rifle.. comparable to a Model 1855 in length.. It had a Snyder like hinged breech and was a monstrous caliber.. I would say over .70 cal. What was that exactly? Unfortunately I sold it many years back .. It was my first period gun and memorable.
A lot of it was that they weren’t American made and many were older than their users. Many had already seen hard use. The manufacturer quality wasn’t up to the same standards as US made but most had served in the premier armies of Europe.Thanks for making this thread, it's very helpful. I remember reading somewhere that a Union soldier remembered the Belgian rifle he had as being the worst he ever used. What problems were these rifles supposed to have suffered from?
Rifle was a 3 band and bayonet lug for an angular bayonet.. Gun was longer than the carbine shown and it had the front sight on the band as the carbine has. It was not as long as a Rifled Musket but definitely longer than the carbine shown.It sounds as if you may have had, as shown above, a French Tabiatere, a very rare and desirable rifled conversion today!
The only time the construction of the cartridge is important for the loading is if you load with the paper. (like with the smoothbore M1842 or the way the british did with their enfields)Does anyone have any information on what the French paper cartridges were like for their Minie, pillar breech, and Delvigne rifles were like? Did Americans use these cartridges or were they able to make US style cartridges for the rifles?
I always thought those were great looking weapons, but I can never get used to that screwed up looking hammer!Just won this beauty at Auction over the weekend. Belgian copy of a Mle1859 carbine de Chasseur by G. Schopen. I assume it is a copy of a 1859, I think some of the 1840s carbine variants looked the same except did not have steel barrel. Have not received it yet, just auction photos for now. With the bayonet and what appears to be original ramrod could not pass on this. I am guessing this one was part of one of the deliveries to the Union.
As a note to the hammer. W/ the French/Belgian arms one of the complaints from US troops was that a man could not use the sights until the hammer was at full cock making the drill order very important: "Ready (full cock) , aim... Said soldier said they had fewer issues of men forgetting to bring the weapon to full cock than they did w/ the smoothbores that the French & Belgian arms had replaced.I always thought those were great looking weapons, but I can never get used to that screwed up looking hammer!