leftyhunter
Brev. Brig. Gen'l
- Joined
- May 27, 2011
- Location
- los angeles ca
Plus blacks. Nothing wrong with pissing off the Klan either.Yeah he could, by protecting carpetbaggers. That's how he managed that.
Leftyhunter
Plus blacks. Nothing wrong with pissing off the Klan either.Yeah he could, by protecting carpetbaggers. That's how he managed that.
And get their on their speedboats? Knight was valuable just by being where he was. Besides he would miss some good lovin from RachalProbably would have been much easier for them to just join the Union garrison at Ship Island.
Why does a guerrilla need official sanction to becomea guerrilla? Guerrillas walk the walk they don't have to talk the talk.
Leftyhunter
I never said they were........you did LOLI will start a new thread about Knight and I will use the dictionary to help educate you that guerrillas and deserters,are not exactly the same.
Leftyhunter
True Union deserters hurt the Union cause. However for the most part they did not conduct sustained small unit actions against Union troops and militia as did Knight and the boy's.I never said they were........you did LOL
"If men desert from the Confederacy that also serves the Union cause. If someone d ties down Union troops that serves the Union cause." Lefty
the same would also be true of union deserters, they hurt the union cause by deserting, then hurt it again by forcing troops to used to try to round up deserters, and in fact there were union deserters who formed bandit bands.........
If your going to argue something don't keep changing your definition you yourself are using...........Or seem to only want to use to define one side, while holding the other side apparently to some different standard
Wow sustained small unit actions......he captured five wagonloads of corn, a bandit band being attacked by the authorities isn't a guerrilla action........so exactly how many sustained offensive operations did ole Newt do besides the great corn heist?................From what I've read he only was involved in 14 skirmishes total, most rather minor at that, and it seems quite a few were initiated by the authorities hunting the bandits.........since you yourself acknowledge being a guerrilla is conducting offensive and harassment, not hiding and fighting defensive as common bandits would do, elaborate on these sustained small unit actions.True Union deserters hurt the Union cause. However for the most part they did not conduct sustained small unit actions against Union troops and militia as did Knight and the boy's.
Leftyhunter
We have with the help of others more then completely derailed @Jimklag thread. I hope @Jimklag can get a moderator to remove all of our posts concerning Knight to a new thread.Wow sustained small unit actions......he captured five wagonloads of corn, a bandit band being attacked by the authorities isn't a guerrilla action........so exactly how many sustained offensive operations did ole Newt do besides the great corn heist?................
True. And neither one gets my approval.Monogamy doesn't work for everybody. It certainly didn't work out for countless slave owners.
Leftyhunter
the same would also be true of union deserters, they hurt the union cause by deserting, then hurt it again by forcing troops to used to try to round up deserters, and in fact there were union deserters who formed bandit bands.........
It's your thread. On the other hand it apoears,we need a more sourced thread,about a great man maligned by pro Confederate folk. Knight as we shall see was a very effective Unionist guerrilla and caused a lot of harm to tbe Confederate cause. I most likely wont be able to start the new thread until the weekend.Nah. It's okay. Not the worst deviation from the OP in the history of CWT.
Unfortunately a high percentage of men then and now don't do monogamy very well. Morality vs biology is not a recipie for success.True. And neither one gets my approval.
Morality has to win that fight. It is one of the things that separates man from other animals that we can control our primal urges. I refuse to believe that biology rules on the fidelity front. It is choice, not chromosomes, that makes men jump from bed to bed.Morality vs biology is not a recipie for success.
I have no problem with you saying he hurt the confederate cause, any bandits that forced eithers sides troops to have to be detailed to counter it did that..........It's your thread. On the other hand it apoears,we need a more sourced thread,about a great man maligned by pro Confederate folk. Knight as we shall see was a very effective Unionist guerrilla and caused a lot of harm to tbe Confederate cause. I most likely wont be able to start the new thread until the weekend.
Has far as the he movie being accurate its not bad. Yes not every scene is accurate but the spirit was. That is it did accurately portray that far from all Southerners supported the Confederacy and the Confederacy faced a popular revolt against it in the last half of the war.
The Confederacy had to resort to harsh measures against the population to sustain itself.
Leftyhunter
Yes its a movie based loosely on a real life historical character, Gettysburg was a movie too and you should look at the number and size of those threads.............apparently movies can spark discussion on what they are based on, wouldn't say that's a bad thingIt's a MOVIE.
Yes its a movie based loosely on a real life historical character, Gettysburg was a movie too and you should look at the number and size of those threads.............apparently movies can spark discussion on what they are based on, wouldn't say that's a bad thing
I will try to put together a new sourced thread on the good and brave Newt Knight this weekend.I have no problem with you saying he hurt the confederate cause, any bandits that forced eithers sides troops to have to be detailed to counter it did that..........
However Union and Confederate are sides in the civil war, to be Unionist or Confederate you have to have ties to that side, which he clearly did not.........which leaves him just a bandit. Just being in opposition to a side does not make you allied or sanctioned to the other side, especially if you had already been in opposition to that side too........ Enlisting twice into the Confederate Army clearly does not demonstrate any form of loyalty or devotion to the Union cause or ideals......
Just because a war is going on doesn't mean criminal activity stops, it actually causes new forms like desertion , however the criminals are still just criminals......committing crimes in Maine doesn't make one a confederate nor does committing crimes in Mississippi make one a Unionist
BTW there were a few Unionists in the south, who clearly showed and demonstrated a loyalty and devotion to the Union cause and ideals, which some paid for with their lives, and IMO you do them a disservice by elevating bandit trash that showed loyalty to neither side as somehow being the same.........