Frederick Douglas, abolitionist and women suffrage supporter. Vice president candidate?

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Born a slave Douglas escaped from bondage and the frequent whipping he was suffering. He was a supporter of abolition but also supported woman suffrage. He was also known as a preacher. Frederick Douglas was probably the most famous black man at the time of the Civil War.

Douglas was not a radical abolitionist and was willing to work with slave owners to find a way to end slavery. Frederick Douglas met with John Brown, but did not support his raid on Harper's Ferry. Douglas toured Ireland and England and helped to get their support for ending slavery. Douglas also worked with the underground railroad. During the Civil War Douglas pushed to allow blacks to become soldiers.

In 1872 Frederick Douglas became the first black/mixed race person to run for vice president. Victoria Woodhull who was the first women to run for president on the Equal Rights Party ticket, picked Frederick Douglas as her running mate without consulting him. Douglas did not campaign for the election and he never even acknowledged that he was a vice presidential candidate.
 
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Born a slave Douglas escaped from bondage and the frequent whipping he was suffering. He was a supporter of abolition but also supported woman suffrage. He was also known as a preacher. Frederick Douglas was probably the most famous black man at the time of the Civil War.

Douglas was not a radical abolitionist and was willing to work with slave owners to find a way to end slavery. Frederick Douglas met with John Brown, but did not support his raid on Harper's Ferry. Douglas toured Ireland and England and helped to get their support for ending slavery. Douglas also worked with the underground railroad. During the Civil War Douglas pushed to allow blacks to become soldiers.

In 1872 Frederick Douglas became the first black/mixed race person to run for vice president. Victoria Woodhull who was the first women to run for president on the Equal Rights Party ticket, picked Frederick Douglas as her running mate without consulting him. Douglas did not campaign for the election and he never even acknowledged that he was a vice presidential candidate.
How did the Douglas ticket do in the south with newly enfranchised ex slaves?
 

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Frederick Douglass's freedom was purchased by English supporters, from his "owner", Hugh Auld of Maryland.
The cost was 150 Pounds Sterling, or US$ 711.66 at the then rate of exchange (1846)
 

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How did the Douglas ticket do in the south with newly enfranchised ex slaves?

The party did not receive enough votes for it to be recorded.

Douglass himself openly campaigned for Ulysses S Grant.
https://www.loc.gov/item/12006966/

Don't try to read something into this that isn't there.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/11/1872-election-frederick-douglass-vice-president/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ll-first-woman-presidential-candidate-116828/
 
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The party did not receive enough votes for it to be recorded.

Douglass himself openly campaigned for Ulysses S Grant.
https://www.loc.gov/item/12006966/

Don't try to read something into this that isn't there.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/11/1872-election-frederick-douglass-vice-president/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ll-first-woman-presidential-candidate-116828/
???? What isn't there? He was first black man on a presidential ticket during the same period blacks were first getting to vote.......not sure how what level of support he got isn't a valid question.
 
The party did not receive enough votes for it to be recorded.

Douglass himself openly campaigned for Ulysses S Grant.
https://www.loc.gov/item/12006966/

Don't try to read something into this that isn't there.

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/11/1872-election-frederick-douglass-vice-president/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...ll-first-woman-presidential-candidate-116828/

In McFeely's 386 page biography of Frederick Douglass -- considered by many as the "go to" source on Douglass's life -- Victoria Woodhull elicits a single paragraph in his entire book:
"At their hotel, one day, 'a great surprise came to me ... a lady of very fine appearance who introduced herself as Mrs John Beddulph Martin, of 17 Hyde Park Gate S.W. She frankly—and I thought somewhat proudly told me that she was formerly Mrs Victoria Woodhull—I am not sure that I quite concealed my surprise.' All that he had heard about the most flamboyant and controversial American woman of his century flashed through Douglass's mind. 'I however soon began to think, what do I know about this lady—that I should think her otherwise, than merely holding strange . . . opinions." He was in no position to think poorly of her for her espousal of free love or any other egalitarian view, but similar lack of license to chastise had not kept many others from vehemently criticizing her. Douglass, for his part, concluded, "I do not know that she is not in her life as pure as she seems to be. I treated her politely and respectfully—and she departed apparently not displeased with her call.'"
William S. McFeely, Frederick Douglass, pp. 332-333
 

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???? What isn't there? He was first black man on a presidential ticket during the same period blacks were first getting to vote.......not sure how what level of support he got isn't a valid question.

The answer to your question is "basically none." The only reason for that though is "because he didn't actually run and was campaigning for Grant" not something like "newly enfranchised black men in the South were rejecting the Republican party."
 
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The answer to your question is "basically none." The only reason for that though is "because he didn't actually run and was campaigning for Grant" not something like "newly enfranchised black men in the South were rejecting the Republican party."
Well then all you needed to say was "basicly none"............ I thought someone might have had the actual numbers, as I hadn't seen them.
 

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Well then all you needed to say was "basicly none"............ I thought someone might have had the actual numbers, as I hadn't seen them.

I don't think the numbers have been published anywhere. I'd be curious if they were even on the ballot in most places. Victoria herself was literally in jail at the time of the election (for stupid reasons). She was also ruled ineligible to run by reason of age.

Forgive me for preempting weird interpretations.
 
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I don't think the numbers have been published anywhere. I'd be curious if they were even on the ballot in most places. Victoria herself was literally in jail at the time of the election (for stupid reasons). She was also ruled ineligible to run by reason of age.

Forgive me for preempting weird interpretations.
Has nothing to do preempting weird interpretation's, but not answering the question........

I ask questions about what I don't know, hoping to learn more.......you answered with everything I already knew, but didn't provide the numbers at all, which I didn't know.......so your answer provided me absolutely nothing to my question.....why the question was specific to how the ticket did in specifically southern states.......if someone had a link to state by state returns including their party would be great.
 

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Has nothing to do preempting weird interpretation's, but not answering the question........

I ask questions about what I don't know, hoping to learn more.......you answered with everything I already knew, but didn't provide the numbers at all, which I didn't know.......so your answer provided me absolutely nothing to my question.....why the question was specific to how the ticket did in specifically southern states.......if someone had a link to state by state returns including their party would be great.

Sorry
 

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Though the answer is basically none. She didn’t receive any electoral votes and I haven’t found anything that recorded popular vote as it was too small to be relevant.
 
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