1. Welcome to the CivilWarTalk, a forum for questions and discussions about the American Civil War! Become a member today for full access to all of our resources, it's fast, simple, and absolutely free!
Dismiss Notice
Join and Become a Patron at CivilWarTalk!
Support this site with a monthly or yearly subscription! Active Patrons get to browse the site Ad free!
START BY JOINING NOW!

Found belt buckle

Discussion in 'Civil War Uniforms & Relics' started by trobel, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. trobel

    trobel Cadet

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    IMG_1351.JPG IMG_1352.JPG hello everyone I am new to this forum so please bare with me. I'm not very knowledgeable about the civil war but I do like history. I have been metal detecting for about 5 years and have found some very interesting relics and coins. But this past weekend I was at my property in the southern tier of ny and found a us civil war belt buckle. In the area where I found it there are many more signals but I haven't dug them up in fear of destroying them. But I feel the need to recover what ever is there to preserve it so the earth doesn't consume it and then it's forgotten. I was hoping someone out there has some knowledge about the area in cattaraugus county during that time
     

  2. (Membership has it privileges! To remove this ad: Register NOW!)
  3. bdtex

    bdtex Brigadier General Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2015
    Messages:
    4,581
    Location:
    Houston,TX area
    I'm sure you'll get some informed opinions. Welcome to the forum from The Trans-Mississippi Department.
     
    AnnaLee likes this.
  4. zburkett

    zburkett Sergeant

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2015
    Messages:
    694
    Location:
    Orange County, Virginia
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on a great find.
     
    AnnaLee likes this.
  5. trobel

    trobel Cadet

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    Thanks for welcome
     
  6. ucvrelics.com

    ucvrelics.com Sergeant Major Forum Host

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    2,375
    Location:
    Alabama
    Welcome From THE Heart Of Dixie. What you have found is a cartridge box plate that went on the outer flap of Union cartridge box. Nice find.
     
  7. trobel

    trobel Cadet

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    Ok so then it's not a belt buckle?
     
  8. zburkett

    zburkett Sergeant

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2015
    Messages:
    694
    Location:
    Orange County, Virginia
    Same as a buckle with different back studs.
     
    FrankN likes this.
  9. trobel

    trobel Cadet

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    Can you tell me what kind of metal the box would be made of? And would it be a leather strap attach to it?
     
  10. redbob

    redbob 1st Lieutenant

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2013
    Messages:
    3,879
    Location:
    Hoover, Alabama
    The box was made of leather with metal cartridge box tins to hold the rounds, the plate would be attached to the box on the front flap through two slots cut in the flap and secured with a leather thong through the two loops on the plate. The boxes came with a strap that went over the shoulder and positioned the box on the hip. The 1864 model boxes had the US embossed on the flap and boxplates are rarer than buckles.
     
  11. trobel

    trobel Cadet

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    Thank you so much for the help I will let everyone know if I find anymore items.
     
    lelliott19 likes this.
  12. Patrick H

    Patrick H Captain

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2014
    Messages:
    7,051
    I can't help you with your find, but many others here will give expert opinions. In the meantime, welcome from Missouri.
     
  13. trobel

    trobel Cadet

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    Thanks Missouri
     
  14. ucvrelics.com

    ucvrelics.com Sergeant Major Forum Host

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    2,375
    Location:
    Alabama
    Here's what it looked like on the cartridge box.
    cartridgebox.jpg
     
  15. zburkett

    zburkett Sergeant

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2015
    Messages:
    694
    Location:
    Orange County, Virginia
    By the way, I don't know haw new to this you are so let me point out (1) don't clean or polish it any more and (2) note when and where you found it. That will add to the value both as an artifact and in dollars.
     
  16. ucvrelics.com

    ucvrelics.com Sergeant Major Forum Host

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    2,375
    Location:
    Alabama
    I believe this reg 1839 plate was made by E Gaylord from the looks of the high ridge on the outside rim of the plate.
     
    lelliott19 and bdtex like this.
  17. JOHN42768

    JOHN42768 2nd Lieutenant Trivia Game Winner

    Joined:
    May 1, 2015
    Messages:
    2,565
    Location:
    Upstate N.Y.
    Welcome, enjoy
     
  18. captaindrew

    captaindrew First Sergeant

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2017
    Messages:
    1,022
    Location:
    West Palm Beach Florida
    Nice find! Welcome to the forum from South Florida
     
  19. 7th Mississippi Infantry

    7th Mississippi Infantry Lt. Colonel Forum Host

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2013
    Messages:
    10,660
    Location:
    Mississippi
    Hello @trobel, welcome to Civil War Talk.

    Impressive find !
     
    lelliott19 likes this.
  20. Bruce Vail

    Bruce Vail Sergeant Major

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2015
    Messages:
    2,240
    What a terrific find!

    And welcome from Baltimore, Md., home of the infamous Pratt St. Riot of April 19, 1861.

    paratt%20st%20riot%20april%2019%201861%203.jpg
     
  21. trobel

    trobel Cadet

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2017
    Messages:
    10
    Thank you everyone for the welcome and the information . I will keep everyone informed what I find from this dig site.
     

(Membership has it privileges! To remove this ad: Register NOW!)

Share This Page


(Membership has it privileges! To remove this ad: Register NOW!)