Fort Stonewall , Choctaw Bluff, Clarke County, Alabama and it’s history.

farrargirl

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Baldwin County, on the Alabama Gulf Coast
I knew very little about this fort, having only seen a reference to it regarding a Brooke cannon, one of two left there when the Federals abandoned it at war’s end. Then, during a F.A.G. search, I came across this ( no relation ) :


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Fold3 brought up some interesting data. Pvt. Vines was a carpenter, by trade, and was on detached duty here to build the Fort. Appears most of the 21st , at the time, were based at Fort Morgan. I will provide a complete history of Fort Stonewall later in the post, but could use some help with understanding the term “stoppages” as it applies to this soldier. Here is the breakdown of the final payment to his widow:

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I understand the wage compilation. At the whopping rate of $.37 cents per day, he earned the $14.80 for his last forty days before the tragic horse accident. But they with-held and subtracted $17.15 for his uniform???..as an ”indebtment” to the Confederate States?? I thought stoppages were deducted for cartridges,etc. but I need help understanding why the CSA would show this as a stoppage..plus, she could not even file a U.S. pension, until the Confederate soldiers were finally deemed eligible decades later...
But back to the Fort:
Here was the location, one of several along the Alabama and Tombigbee River bluffs to fortify the Mobile area:
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Peter Brannon, noted for his knowledge of Alabama history, wrote this fascinating history of Fort Stonewall in 1937.He worked as curator, archivist, and director of The Alabama Department of Archives and History for 57 years :

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( note: in 3rd column, he describes the death and burial of the two owner’s horses, named “the Lord” and “Jesus” !).

Since this is a lengthy history, here is the link to the article: :https://www.newspapers.com/image/413912998/?terms="Fort+Stonewall"

As to the present owner of this property, I believe it is still owned by the family of Ben Stimpson, one of the Stimpson family who owns Gulf Lumber Company in Mobile.

a final addendum from 5 years later:
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farrargirl

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Baldwin County, on the Alabama Gulf Coast
I believe that the Brooke Gun (S-64) that you referred to is in front of Jackson, Alabama's City Hall. :cannon:
I believe that one is described here: ( LOC )
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with this inscription:
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I really do believe Mr. Brannon is correct. That old Brooke Cannon is still on private property at Choctaw Bluff.
The one at Jackson City Hall ( above ) was used at Oven Bluff, which was located almost directly west of Fort Stonewall, on the neighboring Tombigbee River.

And that’s not even counting the one at Old Live Oak Cemetery, in Selma!
Out of 123 made in Selma, I wonder how many we ever got back 😂....

Here is a drawing of Oven Bluff from a great website : digitalalabama.com


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Do not know a thing about architectural renderings, but to name a fort “Sidney Johnston” was a real tribute...
 
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redbob

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Hoover, Alabama
I believe that one is described here: ( LOC )View attachment 394301
with this inscription:
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I really do believe Mr. Brannon is correct. That old Brooke Cannon is still on private property at Choctaw Bluff.
The one at Jackson City Hall ( above ) was used at Oven Bluff, which was located almost directly west of Fort Stonewall, on the neighboring Tombigbee River.

And that’s not even counting the one at Old Live Oak Cemetery, in Selma!
Out of 123 made in Selma, I wonder how many we ever got back 😂....

Here is a drawing of Oven Bluff from a great website : digitalalabama.com


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Do not know a thing about architectural renderings, but to name a fort “Sidney Johnston” was a real tribute...
Thank you, I stand corrected.
 

Rusk County Avengers

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Coffeeville, TX
As of about 8 years ago the Brooke was still in the hands of the landowner who is a DICK with ears. The best way to see the fort is by boat. The fort at Oven bluff is still there and they even did gunboat production there.

Here's something Tom once told me to make me feel better concerning, less-than-likable, landowners:

"Landowners come and go."
 
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