I didn't say that they were demeaning me, personally, just anything to do with Lincoln, the Union, etc. I don't have to look inward for the cause since as I originally stated, these remarks and attitudes were totally unprovoked. These folks just didn't think twice about speaking in such derrogatory terms since they have been doing it unchecked for years. I must tell you that my statements are true, with many ex-SCV members in support. Now, I have a few friends in the SCV and not all share such an extreme view, but the influence is intense and perpetual, and like slowly boiling a frog, you're cooked before you know it! Within this context, it's known as indoctrination.I suggest if every southerner you meet demeans you, then you need to look inward for the cause. PS, I am a member of both the SCVand MOS&B and I will catagorically state that your comments vis a vis these organizations is untrue. Now, like other groups, there are extremists in the camps, but the vast majority of the men I have met and dealt with are not extremist.