Female drummer of Mich. Inf. dies of wounds


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Umm. Not sure.

One thing you state 2nd Michigan. I don't see that in the article. It seems to state 'a Michigan Regiment' in the Division of the gallant Van Cleve.

I certainly question whether it was the 2nd Michigan for it was under Ferrero not Van Cleve. They also don't appear to be at Lookout Mountain. They are at Knoxville with Burnside's command.

Could it have been a different Michigan Regiment? Maybe. But why is someone from New York enlisting in a Michigan Regiment (New York State is easily large enough to be anonymous in)
 

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Umm. Not sure.

One thing you state 2nd Michigan. I don't see that in the article. It seems to state 'a Michigan Regiment' in the Division of the gallant Van Cleve.

I certainly question whether it was the 2nd Michigan for it was under Ferrero not Van Cleve. They also don't appear to be at Lookout Mountain. They are at Knoxville with Burnside's command.

Could it have been a different Michigan Regiment? Maybe. But why is someone from New York enlisting in a Michigan Regiment (New York State is easily large enough to be anonymous in)
Your are right it never says what Michigan regiment. It would have been easy to take a boat from New York to Detroit or joined the regiment wherever. My problem is that it would seem like some other report of a female drummer should have survived.
 

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The article tells of a female drummer of the 2nd Mich. Inf. said to be wounded at Lookout Mountain dies of wounds. Did this happen or is this a "camp story"?

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Depends on what evidence can be found. It appears some thought it happened if we are to believe the article. We do know that there were other cases, some better documented, of women serving while masquerading as men.
 

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Among the more prominent female soldiers were Rebecca Peterman, 7th Wisconsin Infantry; Sarah Emma Edmonds ("Franklin Thompson"), 2nd Michigan Infantry; Mary and Molly Bell, 36th Virginia Infantry; Jennie Hodgers ("Albert Cashier"), 95th Illinois Infantry; and Frances Hook, who served in six or more Illinois regiments. Their stories are reported in detail.
 
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We have the example of Sheridan's entire pretorian guard was female at Chattanooga. I have a memory (Read unreliable) of an archeological dig of some union dead at Chickamaga and of the first four bodies dug up, all four were female.
 

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I was researching some uniform information and saw this article. It was in the Detroit Advertiser and Tribune of Feb 15 1864 on page 1 column 3. As far as I can tell this was the only information in the newspaper and no additional articles discussed this.
 

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Sheridan's memoirs, volume 1 chapter 14.

My memory served me wrong, They weren't pretorian guard. There were only two, a teamster and a private in a cavalry company.
Thanks for your response.
I'll look it up. Meanwhile, do you happen to recall whether they served openly or masqueraded as men?
 
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Masquerading. They had signed up at different times, but discovered each other before the rest of the command. They were discovered because they got into some apple brandy and got uproarious and fell into a fast moving stream. When they were fished out, their sex was discovered.

I have a copy of Sheridans' memoirs on my desk. Unfortunately, it lacks an index.
 

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I can't find an Emily who had a sibling Ephraim in Brooklyn, in 1860- may not mean much since ' Emily ' could be short for Emeline, etc. Could take awhile tracking down the story.
 

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I can't find an Emily who had a sibling Ephraim in Brooklyn, in 1860- may not mean much since ' Emily ' could be short for Emeline, etc. Could take awhile tracking down the story.
It is complicated by the story being passed through several people's retelling the story before it got to the reporter was at liberty to embellish it.
 
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Among the more prominent female soldiers were Rebecca Peterman, 7th Wisconsin Infantry; Sarah Emma Edmonds ("Franklin Thompson"), 2nd Michigan Infantry; Mary and Molly Bell, 36th Virginia Infantry; Jennie Hodgers ("Albert Cashier"), 95th Illinois Infantry; and Frances Hook, who served in six or more Illinois regiments. Their stories are reported in detail.
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At Chickamauga, Horation Van Cleve commanded a division that contained zero Michigan units. After Chickamauga, his division was broken up, and he took command of the garrison at Murfreesboro. I don't think he was even at Lookout Mountain.
 

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The Union forces at Lookout Mountain were portions of the XI and XII corps, recently arrived from the Army of the Potomac. Neither corps had any Michigan infantry units present at Lookout Mountain
 


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