Family Photo With Horses

AndySPC

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dear friends, what can you say about this photo? or is it much later and the question is not at all in the subject?

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lupaglupa

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I'm no expert but I'd say later also - the woman on the right has very large sleeves for CW era, also the standing child's clothing seems later.

Where was the picture taken? By the size of the barn I'm assuming a Northern state
 

lupaglupa

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There's a whole world of people who study barns - building styles and materials etc. I'm betting a knowledgeable person could look at the elements visible here and give us a place and date pretty quickly.
 

Mrs. V

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I would say that the yoke on the womans dress dates it later, but I am no expert. Mens fashions didn’t change all that much, and we do see that type of hat during the war..very civilian..the horses are wonderful! I’m thinking breeding stock..
 

AndySPC

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I would say that the yoke on the womans dress dates it later, but I am no expert. Mens fashions didn’t change all that much, and we do see that type of hat during the war..very civilian..the horses are wonderful! I’m thinking breeding stock..
do you think these horses are a good breed?
 

EJ Zander

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Location
Gettysburg, PA
Some observations.
Barn has been remodeled. I think the board and batten enclosure of the lower level is not original. It has really limited the access to that level. Also water comes of the structures roof and splashes in front of the board and batten when it hits the ground making it prone to rot. The area in front of the lower level does not have any impervious surface laid down for animals to walk on. The water coming off the roof and any animal traffic will quickly turn it into a mud hole.
Looks to be around 40 feet long. 30 by 40 was an old English hill barn design dimension. But I cant get the side dimension.
The door trolley/ roller hardware on the door facing the camera is post war. The gable (side) door that is facing away from the camera has me intrigued. It looks to be high in the eave. That is a good sign that the barn may have a hay trolley. The hay trolley just started to catch on during the war with alot of patents being given in 1860. So it is probably also post war.
Cant make out the barns roofing material. Looks too smooth to be shakes could be slate. The ridge cap is metal which would be post war I think.
The true way to date a barn is to look at how its made on the inside. The barns skeleton if you will.

Love the horses. The feet of the ones in the foreground have a nice wide spread and looked cared for. All three look well feed, the white one alittle too well. The one against the barn has a nice shiny coat that can be seen even in this old pic. Looks like a farm chunk with a short thick neck, thick chest and solid build. He is a worker for sure. Tails are left long. Dark horse with the man in foreground has a narrow chest like a hitch horse.
 

Mrs. V

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Some observations.
Barn has been remodeled. I think the board and batten enclosure of the lower level is not original. It has really limited the access to that level. Also water comes of the structures roof and splashes in front of the board and batten when it hits the ground making it prone to rot. The area in front of the lower level does not have any impervious surface laid down for animals to walk on. The water coming off the roof and any animal traffic will quickly turn it into a mud hole.
Looks to be around 40 feet long. 30 by 40 was an old English hill barn design dimension. But I cant get the side dimension.
The door trolley/ roller hardware on the door facing the camera is post war. The gable (side) door that is facing away from the camera has me intrigued. It looks to be high in the eave. That is a good sign that the barn may have a hay trolley. The hay trolley just started to catch on during the war with alot of patents being given in 1860. So it is probably also post war.
Cant make out the barns roofing material. Looks too smooth to be shakes could be slate. The ridge cap is metal which would be post war I think.
The true way to date a barn is to look at how its made on the inside. The barns skeleton if you will.

Love the horses. The feet of the ones in the foreground have a nice wide spread and looked cared for. All three look well feed, the white one alittle too well. The one against the barn has a nice shiny coat that can be seen even in this old pic. Looks like a farm chunk with a short thick neck, thick chest and solid build. He is a worker for sure. Tails are left long. Dark horse with the man in foreground has a narrow chest like a hitch horse.
I wonder if the white one is pregnant? Yup the hooves on all three are in really good shape.
 

JPK Huson 1863

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Central Pennsylvania
Yes, can't add a lot except it's a carefully posed photo by this family! Those horses are in indeed in awfully good shape ( and @Mrs. V , that mare does look pregnant! ), all of them have been spit-polished! They're not what were referred to as ' blood horses ', but those things would have been not very useful for farm work? 1890-1900, maybe.

We're so used to permanent press clothing it's easy to miss how pristine is this man's shirt! That took a heavy iron and a ton of starch. If this is your family it's a delightful treasure!
 

AndySPC

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Yes, can't add a lot except it's a carefully posed photo by this family! Those horses are in indeed in awfully good shape ( and @Mrs. V , that mare does look pregnant! ), all of them have been spit-polished! They're not what were referred to as ' blood horses ', but those things would have been not very useful for farm work? 1890-1900, maybe.

We're so used to permanent press clothing it's easy to miss how pristine is this man's shirt! That took a heavy iron and a ton of starch. If this is your family it's a delightful treasure!
no, these are not my relatives, I am from Russia)))
 
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