Discussion Examples Of Regional Dialects During The Civil War?

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My friend and I were mistaken for Australians in Kentucky, Tennessee and Georgia back on a tour of the western battlefields in the early 90's, not long after Paul Hogan became a big thing in the USA with his Crocodile Dundee movies and Talk Show appearances. We both had strong London accents at the time, though not Cockneys in the strict sense of the word.
Yeah, I can understand such misconceptions.
( Steve Irwin and the Outback restaurant commercials didn't help matters)
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Personally I love an Aussie accent !
I'm actually mesmerized, and could listen to their accent all day.

Recently, I've been watching a few Aussie & Kiwi You Tube channels.

From the voices I've heard, average Australians do sound different from average New Zealanders.

Kind of like us.
Example: we are all from the Southern USA, but a Virginia dialect is nothing like Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee or Texas.

But I am very much aware that accents within the UK ( especially England ) are vastly different among regions.

I've always enjoyed the variations within our language.
 
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Youngblood

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We had a thread here a couple years ago and i dont recall the source but it was said that the southern accent really came about post war to differentiate themselves from yankees. But who knows.
 

Cycom

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I would encourage anyone interested in regional accents and dialects to take the time and view this video:

@GwilymT thanks again for the video. Unfortunately I was only able to get to around 5 minutes. Was excellent until that point. The linguist host seemed to be a pro and the accents were very interesting. Then, without logic, race was thrown into the mix (as it so often does these days). It was quite jarring, and I couldn’t continue. I will have to search out similar content, though...this at least got me going.
 

GwilymT

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@GwilymT thanks again for the video. Unfortunately I was only able to get to around 5 minutes. Was excellent until that point. The linguist host seemed to be a pro and the accents were very interesting. Then, without logic, race was thrown into the mix (as it so often does these days). It was quite jarring, and I couldn’t continue. I will have to search out similar content, though...this at least got me going.
The only reason race was thrown into the mix, as I see the video, is because of the simple fact that not only white people live in North America. The video is about North American accents, what they are and how they came to be... that story can’t be honestly told without taking race, history, geography, and dozens of other factors into account. I’m sorry you couldn’t stomach it but would encourage you to give it another try.

I am not aware of any video only addressing white accents, if I find one I’ll forward it along...
 

lurid

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The only reason race was thrown into the mix, as I see the video, is because of the simple fact that not only white people live in North America. The video is about North American accents, what they are and how they came to be... that story can’t be honestly told without taking race, history, geography, and dozens of other factors into account. I’m sorry you couldn’t stomach it but would encourage you to give it another try.

Just like if you threw a blanket over blacks and whites in the south you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. I'm not talking about Ebonics, but just casual informal and sometimes formal conversation they have the same accent and lingo.
 

GwilymT

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Just like if you threw a blanket over blacks and whites in the south you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. I'm not talking about Ebonics, but just casual informal and sometimes formal conversation they have the same accent and lingo.
I was quite taken aback by the objection to the video. To pretend that race, history, contact, and immigration patterns aren’t some of the most influential factors in accents seems silly. How can we understand the development of accents in North America unless we can understand if the influences were English, Irish, French, Spanish, African, Native, or all of the above... and also at what time these influences were introduced.
 

Cycom

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The only reason race was thrown into the mix, as I see the video, is because of the simple fact that not only white people live in North America. The video is about North American accents, what they are and how they came to be... that story can’t be honestly told without taking race, history, geography, and dozens of other factors into account. I’m sorry you couldn’t stomach it but would encourage you to give it another try.

I am not aware of any video only addressing white accents, if I find one I’ll forward it along...
Can you please quote where I stated or alluded that I only am interested in “white accents?”Please do so, or retract your comments, because nothing of what I said points to that. My response to the video was done as a critique to that video itself and not to you. Lose the condescension and racial aspersions, please.

In the chance that you misinterpreted my comment, my complaint about the placing of “race” into the video had ZERO to do with the discussion of black English accents in N. America (which I hope would be included since it’s part of our history)and all to do with how the concept was shoved in my face, IMO. I’ll have to find a different video covering this topic. This one quickly degenerated into buzzfeed-like dreck.
 

GwilymT

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Can you please quote where I stated or alluded that I only am interested in “white accents?”Please do so, or retract your comments, because nothing of what I said points to that. My response to the video was done as a critique to that video itself and not to you. Lose the condescension and racial aspersions, please.

In the chance that you misinterpreted my comment, my complaint about the placing of “race” into the video had ZERO to do with the discussion of black English accents in N. America (which I hope would be included since it’s part of our history)and all to do with how the concept was shoved in my face, IMO. I’ll have to find a different video covering this topic. This one quickly degenerated into buzzfeed-like dreck.
Apologies. You did state that once race came into the video at the five minute mark you were jarred and had to stop watching. That happens to be the point where the video says that they’ve only been taking about white accents and that there is more to the story. This logically led me to believe that you were only interested in certain accents more so than others. If I misinterpreted you I apologize and wish you well.
 
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