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Eli Whitney .36 Cal Navy Pistol Sold for $400.00

Discussion in 'Civil War Weapons and Ammunition' started by War Horse, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. War Horse

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    I’m watching an old episode of Pawn Stars. (Terribly bored at the moment). Rick just purchased an authentic Eli Whitney .36 Cal Navy Pistol for $400.00 dollars. His reasoning for his low price was that it was not a popular firearm during the Civil War. I’d agree with that. However, he also stated real Civil War buffs would not be interested in owning one.

    This supprised me. Knowing JEB Sturat carried a Whitney along with a LeMat over under would make this a very desirable item to add to my collection. A chance to own either or (especially the LeMat) at such a reasonable price would be a dream come true in my opinion. Of course Stuart’s name never came up when Rick’s expert gave his opinion.

    My question is. What do our Civil War Buffs have to say on the subject. Is the Whitney a desirable edition to your collection and if you found an authentic Civil War era Whitney, would you consider $400 a bargain. I know I would. Then again I’m not an expert. :smile:

    I’m looking forward to your opinion :smile:
     
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    A flat out steal. Should be ashamed making that offer unless something was wrong with it. It was the third most used revolver. Attached are a couple of mine. Fairly early on & Navy marked for Army. Whitney Navy Ser.#2669  #1.jpg Whitney Navy Ser.#18941  #5.JPG Whitney Navy Ser.#2669  #16.jpg
     
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    Pawn Stars is almost as bad as American Pickers when it comes to an item's true value, these shows are scripted for entertainment value and not reality. The Whitney while not as popular as a Colt is still worth much more than $400 dollars.
     
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    If not being too intrusive, how much are they worth?
     
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    It depends on factors such as model/type, condition, martially marked or not etc but around $1,000.00 + would be fair for one in reasonable condition .
     
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    Your looking at from $1750 to$2000 and more if looking for a collectable piece. I don't think you will find a real nice one at a grand. There were a lot of them out there as I said the third most used revolver. Finding one with a good cylinder stamping is a challenge and bumps the price considerable.
     
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    Well, I’d agree with you 100%. One of his reasons was the weapon had been fired so much, the wear had made it capable of firing .38 Cal ammunition. This would indicate to me, it’s highly likely, it was used during the war. That being said, the serial number becomes of particular interest. Many weapons were registered to those they were issued too. I’d have to assume that a nation TV show would have done their due diligence before airing the episode.
     
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    A great reference book by Dan Williams Jr, Whitney.jpg
     
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    .38 cal. was not from usage. They were converted from percussion to cartridge just like Colts and others
     
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    No kidding. That would mean, it was converted for the war?
     
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    No, we are talking post war
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Pawn Stars is... ****. I have watched outright theft on that show as well as absolute ignorance passed off as expertise. American Pickers is a little better, but not much. I know I wouldn't offer either group anything of mine or suggest to anyone that I know they might get an honest deal from them.

    The Whitney revolver is a very good pistol and I've seen quite a few of them converted to metallic cartridge post war in varying condition. I've never seen one for less than $800 and would consider $1200 for one in shootable condition to be a decent price. $400 was simple theft.
     
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    Without seeing it I would agree with all my learned colleagues above. one thing you have to remember with pawn stars is its all smoke and mirrors, plus "I have to pay overhead, commission to my staff to sell it and there no telling how long its going to stay on my shelf" :D
     
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    Pay over and costs etc all salesmen garb... then the on the flip side he will mark it 1500 and the first 1000 walks out the door with it! And tell you it was a little old lady’s and she only shot it on sundays after church! Wait or is that what the car Salemens told me...... lol
     
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    The Whitney Navy revolver was the fourth most purchased Civil War Union handgun trailing only Colt, Remington and Starr revolvers. The Whitney Navy Revolver and Whitney Pocket Revolver both had a very light cylinder scene. Here are photos of my Whitney Navy Second Model, Second Type cylinder depicting an eagle, shield and lion. $400 is a steal, $1500 is the low end for a very good conditioned specimen and excellent conditioned Whitney Navy Revolvers can command prices in the mid four figures.

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    Yes they can but only if they are in the fantastic condition yours are in. The one in question is an unknown as we have no photos.
     
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    I'm not so sure it was outright highway robbery, or at least inconsistent with a typical pawn shop. I grew hanging around a little pawn shop owned by a close family friend and was always interested in the guns, typically he would buy a gun for about three to four times what he was going to sell it for. (Reason I say only ever sell guns privately and not to shops). He'd buy an old Remington 870 for 40-60 and sell it for 150-220. It seems that most estimates on its value are around 800-1,200. If he sells it for that his markup wouldn't be out of line with most other shops I've seen.
     
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    Uberti or Pietta needs to do a remake of these ! !
     
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