Which statement?
Nothing could be clearer."That was my view, that the act of Virginia in withdrawing herself from the United States carried me along as a citizen of Virginia, and that her laws and her acts were binding on me."
Which statement?
Nothing could be clearer."That was my view, that the act of Virginia in withdrawing herself from the United States carried me along as a citizen of Virginia, and that her laws and her acts were binding on me."
Nothing could be clearer.
No, why would I think that? It's not like he's going to do it again.More to the point, do you think the implications of Lee being willing to follow Virginia anywhere are worrisome?
No, why would I think that? It's not like he's going to do it again.
Why would I worry about things that didn't happen and never will?Imagining Lee going with Virginia on other things.
What ifs, mostly, some fairly far fetched.
But still unpleasant.
Why would I worry about things that didn't happen and never will?
THAT would worry me. How about a nice grilled chicken ciabatta?
Eisenhower felt that he was bound by the laws of his state (Kansas, isn't it?) first and foremost?
I love Ike but he was born in Texas.:hmmm: He overcame that as he did his pacifist mother. Seriously these things probably helped give him balance.
One never overcomes being born in Texas.I love Ike but he was born in Texas.:hmmm: He overcame that as he did his pacifist mother. Seriously these things probably helped give him balance.
If you are referring to the sentence I think you are, it raises a troublesome thought.
Did Lee really feel that he was just a pawn of Virginia? What it did, he would go with, whether that put him against law, conscience, country, good judgment, whatever?
Making the decision he did in the circumstances he did would be one thing. Contemplating if he would go with Virginia wherever it lead is...frankly extremely alarming.
Yeah? ........Why would that be any more alarming than George Thomas (or anyone else for that matter, past or present) going unconditionally for the United States, no matter where it leads?
Why would that be any more alarming than George Thomas (or anyone else for that matter, past or present) going unconditionally for the United States, no matter where it leads?
One never overcomes being born in Texas.
But, more pertinent to this particular thread, Ike was basing his estimation of Lee on a false assumption i.e., "He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America;..." It may have been arguable in the Country but, not to Lee's mind. Clearly he did not believe unswervinglhy in the Constitutional validity of his cause, Even granting, as many seem to do, that it is only what Lee thought that counted and we know what Lee thought on this matter abd it was not an unswerving belief in the Constitutional validity of his cause.
But this thread is about Ike's estimation of Lee and 'that' estimation was based on a false assumption. If his assumption is incorrect, his estimation is incorrect.