Dupont Confederate Battle Flag Protest

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aphillbilly

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Well.....this is an issue that just is not going away.....

I wish that I had the literary ability to adaquately convey my feelings on what it is like to have the CBF attacked so much. To have it attacked in such a manner. To be considered a....sigh.... All that I can think to say is...It hurts. It really hurts.

I think H.K. is right. It is all about trying to divide the Whites and Blacks....funny this issue comes up just as there is has been the migration of blacks to the South...when one of the reasons was better race relations.....sigh....why...what good can come of it?
 

unionblue

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Tommy,

Are you serious? Do you truly believe the <u>United Nations</u> ordered the Confederate Battle Flag removed from all employee trucks, plates, and CDF coffee mug and flags from the offices of the plant?

I find it hard to get motivated in a serious discussion when such claims are made.

Unionblue
 
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aphillbilly

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Neil,
Of course not. But DuPont and many companies have done these things. The courts have upheld the decision you can fire someone for having CBF on company property.
But what is really upsetting to me is the escalation in recent years of the CBF being constantly attacked and ridiculed. Then not only the CBF is attacked but the people who do not consider it racist are therefore racist. So then you got more and more power in the hands the hands of racist and whackos defending it. Then in turn you get more division among supporters of the CBF or worse you feel the need to associate with onerous allies to oppose such attacks. Which in turn just feeds the .....it never ends.....and what bugs me. People who KNOW better don't even say a word. Their silence is advocation.

That said...read the UN mandate....it ain't that far fetched.

YMOS
tommy

(Message edited by aphillbilly on November 06, 2003)
 

unionblue

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Tommy,

Point taken, but in reply, it seems that the folks who are defending the CBF, AT TIMES, are wackos and extremists, who do the flag no good whatsoever. And those same folks make extremist remarks that are simply not true and do that flag no justice and the men who fought for it no honor.

But of course, those are the wackos that get the air time, on both radio and TV, and those are the wackos that get all the ink in the newspapers. And with a liberal press and liberal national tv news organizations, those stories are going to get the worst kind of spin, to the discredit of the flag and the men who fought for it.

DuPont did what it did because it KNEW that there could be no organized credible defense brought against them, just these fringe elements tying the flag into their twisted agenda. As long as the true history of the flag is drowned in modern-day agendas, spin and fringe causes, it is in danger.

The flag should be displayed above the graves of the men who fought for it. It should be displayed at museums and historical sites. It should continue to be displayed at historical reenactments to help educate the public and teach history to our children. It should be displayed on State flags that it is a part of the design of that flag where the majority of citizens have voted to retain it or sponsor it.

But the Confederate Battle Flag should not in itself be flown above government buildings or courts or police stations or other public service institutions. It is NOT the flag, in itself, of any such organization. It does not politically represent the entire body of citizenship and the sooner that fact is realized, the sooner this factional war over its meaning might end.

As for the UN, it can't even collect its dues let alone tell me squat. I've read the charter and I dare it.

YMOS,
Unionblue
 

hoosier

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That "UN Mandate" is the wordiest document I ever saw in my life.

If it says anything about DuPont employees displaying the CBF, I couldn't find it. I tried wading through the endless lists of every sort of international convention and committee that have supposedly passed pertinent resolutions, but I had to give up.

I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that any person or organization that wanted another person or organization to do something could not find a more efficient way to tell the other person or organization what they wanted them to do.
 
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aphillbilly

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Neil,
Not sure if you are aware but it was not a DuPont employee of the plant who made a complaint but human resource specialist from Norfolk. The employee demanded his union rep and the union filed grievence. The grievence basically said why are some cultural icons are acceptable and others are not, who makes the decisions and were is the parity. The gentleman was also alledgedly forced to remove Confederate bumper stickers from his car. When he replaced them with stickers saying Dupont Violated my First Amendment Rights. They made him remove those as well.
 

unionblue

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Tommy,

I am aware of the situation at DuPont and that is why I tried to make a point that here are the facts, an employee and a human resource specialist from Norfolk becomes a UN plot to get rid of the Confederate Battle Flag. The real message gets drowned in the spin and the **** of extremists while the real problem does not get addressed.

Unionblue
 
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