....and I think there would be some good, informative discussions.He doesn't get the PR, but was there really any more important officer in the end?
....and I think there would be some good, informative discussions.
Napoleon preferred lucky generals to good ones because in the end, it's the victor who is remembered (except the ACW when everyone is remembered). In the above case it was another general's luck that gave the Union the victory that reelected Lincoln.The Overland Campaign, we can see in retrospect, wore down Lee's army and caused its collapse in early 1865. But if events elsewhere (especially in Georgia) had not gone the North's way and brought about a collapse of political will and a negotiated peace, Grant would be remembered as the Douglas Haig of America.
He doesn't get the PR, but was there really any more important officer in the end?
Rob can correct me if I'm misreading his post, BUT... Notice that this is one of the very first posts in the NEW Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain Forum! I believe Rob is questioning WHY this in-the-long-run relatively unimportant figure gets his own forum before The Saviour of the Union and eighteenth President of the United States does. So far we have naturally Lincoln, Stonewall Jackson, and only very recently Lee; isn't the ultimate Commander-in-Chief of all the Union armies and victor of Fort Donelson, Shiloh, Vicksburg, Chattanooga, Petersburg, and finally Appomattox a little more deserving of one than someone best-known as colonel of a regiment, then commander of a brigade, and briefly a division?
If I'm correct, I say Hear, hear!
(Churchill was wrong about everything in his career, except one – Hitler)
I'm sure you could get a Grant forum if you ask for it and find someone to host it.You're kind of correct. The first thing I thought when I saw it was, "Why?", but I don't object to a thread on "Don't call me Lawrence." It's just that Grant was far more important and more interesting.
The Overland Campaign, we can see in retrospect, wore down Lee's army and caused its collapse in early 1865. But if events elsewhere (especially in Georgia) had not gone the North's way and brought about a collapse of political will and a negotiated peace, Grant would be remembered as the Douglas Haig of America.
Churchill was wrong about everything in his career, except one – Hitler
Napoleon preferred lucky generals to good ones because in the end, it's the victor who is remembered (except the ACW when everyone is remembered).
Churchill also was right to modernize the Royal Navy in 1911 and to promote the development of the Airial arm of the Navy, he was right to support the establishment of the minimum wage and labour exchanges and the National Health insurance, he was right to support the development of the Tank, he was right to oppose appeasement, he was right that Britain could only triumph in WW2 through an alliance with America, and he was right, in the end, to oppose the Soviet Union and their dominance of Eastern Europe and warn against it. He certainly had his fair share or things that he got wrong but to say he was only right about one thing during his entire career is very unfair.
Probably need a Lee forum as well....