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And here is the photo that shows Eric talking to us at that spot
See me making faces at you, Peter???
And here is the photo that shows Eric talking to us at that spot
Yes ma'am!See me making faces at you, Peter???
You are so figurativeI can think of at least hundreds
And even among Union Civil War generals, the general public opinion during the Civil War had others (Butler, McClellan, Banks, Burnside, Killpatrick, Rosecrans etc.) much more controversial than him. Add some confederate figures, Andrew Johnson, John Wilkes Booth, and probably more, and there were at least a dozen more controversial contemporary figures.
The more you add to American History and meet people like Adolph Hitler, Osama bin Laden, etc, the more and more Dan Sickles becomes a footnote in History, despite his intention, and that is enough punishment
I would guess if you asked a random set of 1000 Americans now about who were the 10 most despicable people in American History, Sickles' name will not come up. And I bet 999 of them would not even know who Dan Sickles was.
The History of America is very long
You are so figurative
Lol, I would like to point out, there is a difference between despicable and true evil. Agreed Sickles is not in the same category as some you have mentioned. Plain and SimpleIt figures
Lol, I would like to point out, there is a difference between despicable and true evil. Agreed Sickles is not in the same category as some you have mentioned. Plain and Simple
Of course we do silly boy!Want more Sickles-related photos from the Gettysburg visit last year? Stupid question?
I'll look. I don't recall it"Where is the bust of Major General Dan Sickles? Was it not meant to be here?" Rumour has it he misappropriated the funds that had been raised for this. Does Hessler mention this in his book @Bee, @War Horse?
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Now I remember. He said "... the entire battlefield is a memorial to Dan Sickles", when questioned why there was no memorial to him. What a man!"Where is the bust of Major General Dan Sickles? Was it not meant to be here?" Rumour has it he misappropriated the funds that had been raised for this. Does Hessler mention this in his book @Bee, @War Horse?
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In his own mind he had no equal.Now I remember. He said "... the entire battlefield is a memorial to Dan Sickles", when questioned why there was no memorial to him. What a man!
PeterT said:"Where is the bust of Major General Dan Sickles? Was it not meant to be here?" Rumour has it he misappropriated the funds that had been raised for this. Does Hessler mention this in his book @Bee, @War Horse?
I'll look. I don't recall it
So putting 2 + 2 together I can get 4 and a bitFound it @PeterT -- waaaay in the back of the book, page 345:
Regarding why Dirty Dan was expelled from the monuments commission, page 372:A statue was never completed, and today the pedestal remains empty. Although it appears that there was no intention to pace a monument there during Sickles' lifetime, probably due to a general restriction prohibiting the honoring of living individuals, one of Gettysburg's oldest battlefield traditions has it that Sickles' expulsion from the monuments commission in 1913 prevented this statue form ever being placed.
The state Controller had been attempting an accounting of the commission's funds since 1910. When Controller William Sohmer finally saw the books in late 1912, he discovered that chairman Sickles had vouchers for only $417,165 of the $445,641that had been gien the commission fort he expenditure of state monuments: $28,486 was un accounted for.
Correct. Again the crafty Sickles avoided jail somehow even though he could not repay the shortage. The guy had a horseshoe shoved somewhere, I'll let your imagination do the rest.So putting 2 + 2 together I can get 4 and a bit
There is no bust of Sickles because he was still living (and it couldn't be placed there) but then he was expulsed from the Commission (and it wouldn't be placed there) and he was expulsed due to unaccounted for funds. Sounds about right then.
Maybe they should put a sculpture of Dan's erstwhile leg there instead? Or, better yet, a smiling bust of Meade? (Not that Meade ever smiled.)Found it @PeterT -- waaaay in the back of the book, page 345:
Regarding why Dirty Dan was expelled from the monuments commission, page 372:A statue was never completed, and today the pedestal remains empty. Although it appears that there was no intention to pace a monument there during Sickles' lifetime, probably due to a general restriction prohibiting the honoring of living individuals, one of Gettysburg's oldest battlefield traditions has it that Sickles' expulsion from the monuments commission in 1913 prevented this statue form ever being placed.
The state Controller had been attempting an accounting of the commission's funds since 1910. When Controller William Sohmer finally saw the books in late 1912, he discovered that chairman Sickles had vouchers for only $417,165 of the $445,641that had been gien the commission fort he expenditure of state monuments: $28,486 was un accounted for.
Funny how we read the same thing and come away with totally opposite opinion. I see premeditated intentions written all over it.
1. Have Teresa make a written confession.
2. Calling his old Tammany Hall crony to be present when he kills Key.
3. Firing on an unarmed man in cold blood.
He probably knew what their signal was and when Key was next to appear from Teresa. It appears planned and executed, so to speak. He could have challenged him to a duel! That of course could have resulted in his own death. He played it safe!
And here is the photo that shows Eric talking to us at that spot. The other photo was posted in another thread, but for the sake of completeness I have put it here also. Can't get enough of Dirty Dan. You can see the terrain. Sickles men were looking uphill and the ground in front was swampy marshland. That doesn't excuse Sickles though!
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