Recent Find Dagger with 1864 Penny and Army Navy Token

midwestjoe

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Possible civil war era. Nice patina.

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johan_steele

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I almost think that token is a Sutlers token. But trying to see via my phone I can't quite tell perhaps someone more knowledgeable can chime in The blade almost looks like a cut down M1855 sabre bayonet. I own a similar item that is a cut down M1842 socket bayonet on an ash handle and have since seen another similar from a cut down Brit socket bayonet commemorating the Crimea war w/ a Brit Penny as part of the pommel.

Calling @Package4, @ucvrelics, @Lanyard Puller
 

Package4

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I almost think that token is a Sutlers token. But trying to see via my phone I can't quite tell perhaps someone more knowledgeable can chime in The blade almost looks like a cut down M1855 sabre bayonet. I own a similar item that is a cut down M1842 socket bayonet on an ash handle and have since seen another similar from a cut down Brit socket bayonet commemorating the Crimea war w/ a Brit Penny as part of the pommel.

Calling @Package4, @ucvrelics, @Lanyard Puller
It does look like a cut down sword or bayonet blade, with two sutler tokens nailed on either side. I will defer to the Puller, since he collect this type of weapon, as to authenticity.
 

midwestjoe

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I almost think that token is a Sutlers token. But trying to see via my phone I can't quite tell perhaps someone more knowledgeable can chime in The blade almost looks like a cut down M1855 sabre bayonet. I own a similar item that is a cut down M1842 socket bayonet on an ash handle and have since seen another similar from a cut down Brit socket bayonet commemorating the Crimea war w/ a Brit Penny as part of the pommel.

Calling @Package4, @ucvrelics, @Lanyard Puller
The loupe shows a common token. The blade is out of my area. Thanks for the input!
 

ucvrelics

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The loupe shows a common token. The blade is out of my area. Thanks for the input!
They are both CW patriotic tokens. The 1864 Indian Princess Head will have Our Army on the back and the Army Navy could have several different back. On the have blade and its hard to tell as the end of the blade is in the shadow but I'm leaning Field & Staff officers sword blade with the fuller and it having a double edge. Its hard to tell but it does have a slight curve at the end like and F&S sword. What is the width of the blade and the fuller?
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mofederal

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I really like the dagger and tokens. I am still hunting for an 1857 large penny. I believe it was the last of the large pennies. I had one found in a Union Army garrison site in Missouri.
 

midwestjoe

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They are both CW patriotic tokens. The 1864 Indian Princess Head will have Our Army on the back and the Army Navy could have several different back. On the have blade and its hard to tell as the end of the blade is in the shadow but I'm leaning Field & Staff officers sword blade with the fuller and it having a double edge. Its hard to tell but it does have a slight curve at the end like and F&S sword. What is the width of the blade and the fuller?
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Thanks very much. The similarity to the penny threw me off
 
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