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Civil war life belt? Coast guard 1863

Discussion in 'Civil War Uniforms & Relics' started by jan m, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. jan m

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    Hello,

    A few years ago, I bought this item with a lot of other stuff. Could this piece be from the Civil War? And what would be the value of this item? I would like to sell it, to buy more Canadian ww2 militaria. Thank you very much in advance,

    Jan
     

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    Thanks for posting. It is hard to see what is written on it if you could be clearer photos or transcribe what it says it would be very helpful.
     
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    http://thomaslegion.net/americancivilwartheunitedstatescoastguardakarevenuecutterservice.html

    I am not for sure, as I have only seen these life preservers from later times. It is pretty neat though. At that time the Coast Guard was known as the US Revenue Cutter Service by the 1860's. The modern Coast Guard was created in 1915, when it merged with the US Life-Saving Service. Either way I like it. I hope it is from the Civil War era. I cannot read the date clearly. Thanks for posting it.
     
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  5. relicKING

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    coast guard was called the marine revenue cutter service during the war and became the uscg in the 1920s per their website
     
  6. jan m

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    Thank you all very much. So it is not from the civil war unfortunately. It says Atlantic Pacific Mig corp, and an adress. It also says approved United States Coast Guard. I am not sure about the date, it really looks like 1863.
     
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    i would google what you can read and the mark is a inspector mark pretty much meaning it passes their guidlines etc
     
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    ill also add its definately older style most likely from the early 20s and prob still a desirable piece as it has eye appeal.
     
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    In my collecting and trading experience, I’ve found people collect just about anything! Especially odd/unusal items!! Which this seems to be? The stencil reminds me of the world wars stlye. Much later then the ACW But can’t hardly make out what it says... do some research perhaps you have a diamond in the ruff!!
     
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    The USCG Approval code numbering system in this particular format didn't come around till post-WW2 in the late 40's or so... The date is more likely 1963... Still would be an interesting collectible to hang on the man cave wall of some old salt...
     
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    It does appear to be a color I have seen on WWII items, not white to attract attention, but a drab color to help hide a person floating on the sea.
     
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    Thank you very much for the information. I definetely does not say 1963. I am going to try to do some research. I will keep you all posted.
     
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    The company that made it was formed in 1920, and ended in 1985...
    The USCG equipment approval code used on it in that format started in 1949...
    Heres two image clips of two other life buoys from the same maker, showing the date stencil for comparison of the fonts used...
    Also noting that the date marking pattern apparently changed from Month-Day-Year in 1955... to Day-Month-Year by this one in 1956...
    buoy-Clipboard01.jpg
    buoy-clip2.jpg

    Here is a "negative" image of yours, so the markings can be seen better
    buoy-IMG-20171109-WA0014-2.jpg
     
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    They began manufacturing Dec 6th, 1920, so no chance of this being ACW, sorry.
     
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    Thank you for the photo`s. I think mine must be army related, due to the green colour. Unfortunately I still can not read the marking. I think that it is not 1963, I believe it is older.
     
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    It does appear to read 20 March 1963
     
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    20 March and 1x63 are easily visible, we know it cannot be an 8 so there is only one option, a 9.
     
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    Haha I think you are right. I am just a little bit disappointed I think. Thanks very much for all the information.
     
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    You may want to contact the San Francisco Maritime Museum, a unit of the National Park Service (aka Hyde Street Pier).
     

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