Civil war cavalry

hogz4

Cadet
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Location
Springdale, AR
We all know that the Union cavalry seemed to catch up to their Confederate counterparts at Brandy Station and Gettysburg. But my question is did the Union cavalry in the western theater ever catch up to their counterparts? I live in Arkansas and have studdied that theater and in my opinion neither side used their cavalry well. Although the Confederates seemed to have the better commanders.
 
We all know that the Union cavalry seemed to catch up to their Confederate counterparts at Brandy Station and Gettysburg. But my question is did the Union cavalry in the western theater ever catch up to their counterparts? I live in Arkansas and have studdied that theater and in my opinion neither side used their cavalry well. Although the Confederates seemed to have the better commanders.

General James Harrison Wilson after dealing with Forrest on the AOT pursuit from Tennessee assembled the largest mounted force in history 13,500 strong at Waterloo and Gravelly Springs, Alabama in January-February- March 1865. He then proceeded south to capture Alabama, though the AOT was long gone east by then. Not a true test to judge his cavalry by; not much competition. He and Edward Hatch never really seemed to best Forrest prior to Selma April 2, 1865.
 
Dear List Members;

Just want to inject a few facts about Cavalry in general.

Light Cavalry was employed as flankers and partisans, and generally for all service out of the line.

Heavy Cavalry, belonged to the reserve, and is covered when necessary, in marches, camps, or bivouacs, by light troops, infantry of that line.

How they lined up by 1861 guidelines; the arrangements of the troops on parade or in order of battle was:
1st. The Light Infantry, 2nd. Infantry of the Line, 3rd Light Cavalry, 4th, Infantry of the line and 5th. Heavy Cavalry.

Cavalry Corps were not to exceed 6,000 horses (privates/troopers). And, because horses travel at a different pace; they often marched separate from the Infantry and on different roads.

Artillery followed the Cavalry. But, if the Artillery train is long--they march on a separate road from the Cavalry.

To give an example of a Cavalry march for approximately 20 miles, I will borrow the example straight out of the 1862 Army Officer's Pocket Companion-A Manual for Staff Officers in the field.
Art. 42 -pg. 93-4

Cavalry - Departure at six o'clock, march of forty-five minutes, halt of ten minutes, reconed from the moment when the last division has closed up to its distance (the troops forming, then halting, whatever may be the order adopted for the march), to the trumpet's call. The vanguard stops at the same time as the head column; and the rear guard keeps at a proper distance from the rear. During the halt, the horses have their girths tightened and their feet looked to. Some two and a half miles (2-1/2 miles) having been passed over in this first period of the march, the detachment will clear six or seven miles without any new halt, alternatively walking and trotting, in about 100 minutes (1 hr. 40 min); then it will halt in a proper situation in close column, if possible and half an hour (30 minutes) will be allowed the men to breakfast on the meat kept for that purpose. The second half of the distance will be preformed in two intervals of time, divided by a rest of five or six minutes, alternately walking and trotting, so as to make five (5) miles in an hour. The destination will thus be reached at eleven o'clock in the forenoon, five hours after departure. If the distance be more or less than twenty miles, the halts would almost always be the same in number, but the duration of each march would be lengthened or shortened by a few minutes. If the cavalry has any baggage, this should start as to arrive at the latest one hour after the column. Horse/mule walks approximately 2 1/2 miles per hour.

(Pg. 95-6) Cavalry does not generally make more than thirty miles a day when the march is to be long. A train of 250 wagons takes, at the rate of 12 yards to a carriage, a space of 3,000 yards in a file.

Art. 49-Pg. 114-- Calculation of the Times of Marches

Column of infantry passes over 2 1/2 miles an hour at the route step, including halts.

Column of Cavalry, alternating at a walk and trot, will get over six miles an hour.

(All depending upon the state of the troops whether fresh or not, and upon the delays occasioned by marching across fields).

Intervals between the ranks of infantry, cavalry, artillery may be 1 yard.

A division of infantry of 12 battalions, of 700-800 men each, marching in
close column by company and at a route step, will occupy a space in length of 700-800 yards (7 to 8 NFL/AFL Football fields).

Two batteries of artillery, with their caissons, marching in double file, will occupy about 350-400 yards. (3 1/2 to 4 football fields) (And this does not include the Artillery train, which carries ordnance, forge wagon, etc.).

A Corps of 25,000 men in close column march by company, with 1 yard separation, will occupy a sapce of about 2 1/2 miles in length, and will take a little over one hour to deploy by either flank, and about 30 minutes to deploy on the center.

A Division of Cavalry, of 24 Squadrons of 48 files each, marching by platoons, close column, will make a length of about 1,300 yards; it can deploy either flank in 8 minutes; at a trot; in four minutes on the center, in ground free of obstacles.

Division is 2 or more Brigades
Brigade is 2 or more (2 to 4) Regiments
Regiments are 10 or more Companies
Battalions are 2 or more Companies
Companies are 4 squads or 82 privates
Squadron -less or more than a company/Cavalry 2 troops (2 companies)
Platoon less or more than a company

Hopefully, this will help visualize things in the discussion.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf
 
Dear Hogz4;

I am not so certain if the Confederates had better commanders but, the Confederates had less tampering by higher commands in the East.

Being on home ground also has an advantage. Support from the citizens, their forage, grain, hay, stabling, troops, etc., didn't have to move by rail or by wagon their supplies. To do so is a disadvantage for any army and or cavalry unit.

Also, it appears to me, that Union Cavalry were in all different directions and not made into one fist and crush the CSA Cavalry.

O.R.--SERIES I--VOLUME XXXIX/2 [S# 78]
UNION CORRESPONDENCE, ORDERS, AND RETURNS RELATING TO OPERATIONS IN KENTUCKY, SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA, TENNESSEE, MISSISSIPPI, ALABAMA, AND NORTH GEORGIA (THE ATLANTA CAMPAIGN EXCEPTED), FROM MAY 1, 1864, TO SEPTEMBER 30, 1864.(*)--#16
MEMPHIS, TENN., September 16, 1864.
(Received 11 p.m. 17th.)
Maj. Gen. H. W. HALLECK, Chief of Staff:
On the 10th instant Forrest, with all his effective mounted force, was at Okolona, and about moving on a raid somewhere---I think to Middle Tennessee. He has taken great pains to mask his movements. Nearly half of my effective cavalry is in Arkansas after Price and Shelby, and I have no force here now with which I can hold Forrest where he is. General A. J. Smith's command and 100-days' men all gone, leaving me powerless to move aggressively any great distance. C. C. WASHBURN,
Major-General.
------------------------------------------------------------
MEMPHIS, September 16, 1864.
Major-General SHERMAN:
On the 6th instant Forrest was at Mobile, having taken some dismounted men there. On the 10th he was at Okolona, and all his effective mounted force were with him and were about moving on a raid somewhere--I think to Middle Tennessee. Look out for your weak points. Nearly half of my cavalry are in Arkansas after Price, and I cannot hold Forrest where he is with the small force now at my command. Smith, Mower, and 100-days' men gone. C. C. WASHBURN,
Major-General.
---------------------------------------------------------
Numbers show that the Union Cavalry was nearly non-existant. Can't blame General Washburn as he can't command phantom cavalry.

O.R.--SERIES I--VOLUME XLIX/2 [S# 104]
Union Correspondence, Orders, And Returns Relating To Operations In Kentucky, Southwestern Virginia, Tennessee, Northern And Central Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, And West Florida, From March 16 To June 30, 1865.(*)--#5
HDQRS. MILITARY DIVISION OF WEST MISSISSIPPI,
New Orleans, La., March 27, 1865.
Col. C. T. CHRISTENSEN,
Assistant Adjutant-General:
COLONEL: The special order directing General Grierson to proceed to Memphis to expedite the movement of the cavalry has been revoked.(*) The general thinks it best to wait the result of Captain Walker's instructions, and also to hear from you in regard to the matter. I will send copy to-morrow. General Grierson wishes me to ask you if, in case we cannot get the cavalry ordered from Memphis, a portion of the cavalry from Arkansas can be made available. There are no horses, however.
GEO. L. WILBUR,
Lieutenant and Acting Assistant Adjutant-General.
(got no Cavalry without mounts).
Just some thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
M. E. Wolf
 
Yes and no, depends on what unit and where. Forrest was Forrest but Wheeler, as one example, got his heiny handed to him a couple times. For the US there were several very succesful Cav ops: Greirson's raid, Wilson's Selma campaign etc.

In a lot of ways it was two different wars, the fighting in the East w/ the AoP & ANV then the fighting out west. A whole different environment and a different class of soldiers IMO, on both sides. As an an example compare the fighting around Atlanta to anything in the eastern theatre or the Red River Campaign and Banks Grand Retreat. Or if you want to have a lot of fun follow AJ Smith's Division on a map after they left the AoT. Nobody in the eastern theatre even remotely compares to that kind of marching by "foot cav." And also one cannot overlook the actions against the Native Americans in the "Dakota Uprising."
 
The Union Cavalry in the early summer of '64 in the west was a mess. General Starkweather in Pulaski, Tennessee had over 2500 troopers under his command in late May and Early June. Of those, just over 500 were mounted.
 
General James Harrison Wilson after dealing with Forrest on the AOT pursuit from Tennessee assembled the largest mounted force in history 13,500 strong at Waterloo and Gravelly Springs, Alabama in January-February- March 1865.

While researching the Battle of Collierville, I found a map that was labeled "Lafayette and Collierville" and was attributed to a Lt. J. H. Wilson. I searched the internet and found a site that said he made Maj-General. "No way"---I said. This must be wrong. I had never read much on the Union cavalry so I didn't know about him. After more search, it proved to be true.

James Wilson graduated from West Point in 1860, ranked 6th in his class. As a Lieutenant, he became a Topographical Engineer for General Sherman and became Chief Engineer for General Grant. By April 1862, he was promoted to Major and served a brief stint in Army of Potomac before returning to Gen. Sherman's command as General Inspector. On October 30, 1863, he was promoted to Brigadier General (Brevet) of Volunteers, and was the only officer in Grant's regular staff to be promoted to troop command. Wilson remained in command still doubling as an engineer, through the Battle of Chattanooga. He was promoted to Brevet Major General, in June 21, 1865 and then Major General in June 21, 1865.
He continued in service after the war at a lower rank and returned to rank of Major-General in 1899. That is an unbelievable career.
His career must have exceeded generals like Dwight Eisenhower or even Napoleon.

Steve
 
DixieRifle, look at Emory Upton for another interesting career, or Johnny Clem... started as a Drummer Boy and as a General Officer was mandatory retired during WW1. Doesn't get much better than that IMO.

I wouldn't rank Wilson w/ either Napoleon or Eisenhower... though to be honest I prefer Wilson to Eisenhower. Logan is another of interest, post war Pershing's rise is an interesting one as well. The ACW created a whole breed of officers and soldiers the like this Nation has rarely seen.
 

Learn About Us
About CivilWarTalk
Contact the Webmaster
Meet the Staff
Link to CivilWarTalk
Join Our Community
Register
Browse Forums
View Today's Discussions
Search the Forum
Get Help
FAQ
Student Guide
Forum Rules & Etiquette
Copyright / DMCA

     Contact Us CivilwarTalk on Facebook CivilWarTalk on YouTube CivilWarTalk on Twitter RSS Feed

Bringing the American Civil War and More to Life.
© 1999 - , CIVILWARTALK, LLC - Site Version 10.0

SlaveryTalk.com - SecessionTalk.com - CivilWarTalk.com - ReconstructionTalk.com
Back
Top