Mike Serpa
Major
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2013
They found a cannonball in York County, VA yesterday.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/metal-detecting-kids-dig-cool-235037518.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/metal-detecting-kids-dig-cool-235037518.html
My thought exactly. Parents should have called you instead.Its a shame that EOD will destroy this 12lb Bormann as they are so EZ to disarm and restore.
Too bad they didn’t know to come here first! Sad to think that no one on the force could actually disarm it..history lost.They found a cannonball in York County, VA yesterday.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/metal-detecting-kids-dig-cool-235037518.html
Yes, it's sad to think they didn't disarm it. Imagine yourself on the bomb disposal squad. How many opportunities would you get to blow up a Civil War cannonball? What fun to tell you family, friends and future bomb disposal squad members what you did! Your fun is more important than the discoverers fun. Reminds me of the California Department of Forestry.Too bad they didn’t know to come here first! Sad to think that no one on the force could actually disarm it..history lost.
Too bad they didn’t know to come here first! Sad to think that no one on the force could actually disarm it..history lost.
The first reaction of someone not familiar with civil war period shells is what you are expressing here.Sad? History wasn't lost, just an old shell. Dealing with a live shell is serious business and safety is more important than the opinion of a hobbyist that the thing is a "relic". I don't tell other people how to do their job.
Prudent behavior. In Europe people are still killed once in awhile by "relics" of the Great War.
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Don't want to get into a spat but the reason the exact location isn't made public is to protect the trees from said public (who tend to do stupid things like cut out burls, take souvenirs, carve their initials, and damage delicate root systems). I've actually visited Methuselah (the Bristlecone) but went with members of the Tucson dendrochronology lab. I was a forester working for the Department of The Interior in Nevada at the time and had been assisting the lab on some projects. And BTW, Methuselah is on federal land (USFS). I'd guess there's lots of people who know where Hyperion (the Redwood) is, too; you just have to know somebody and be a safe bet.Yes, it's sad to think they didn't disarm it. Imagine yourself on the bomb disposal squad. How many opportunities would you get to blow up a Civil War cannonball? What fun to tell you family, friends and future bomb disposal squad members what you did! Your fun is more important than the discoverers fun. Reminds me of the California Department of Forestry.
The California Department of Forestry knows where the tallest redwood tree is but won't tell the public. The California Department of Forestry also knows where the oldest bristlecone pine tree is but won't tell the public. They can look at the trees and enjoy them for what they are but the public will never know.
Yes, I've noticed that most sites are not made public. That certainly makes sense.Don't want to get into a spat but the reason the exact location isn't made public is to protect the trees from said public (who tend to do stupid things like take souvenirs and carve their initials). I've actually visited Methusilah (the Bristlecone) but went with members of the Tuscon dendrochronology lab. I was a forester working for the Department of The Interior in Nevada at the time and had been assisting the lab on some projects. I'd guess there's lots of people who know where Hyperion (the Redwood) is, too; you just have to know somebody and be a safe bet.
Most archeological sites are not made public either because if they were they'd be dug up. I think we can consider these trees to be living archeological sites. It's a bit of a tragedy of the commons thing.
I know the reason. It's sad they have to do that. Thanks for the correction of who owns the land. If I could choose one of the two to visit I would choose Methuselah.Don't want to get into a spat but the reason the exact location isn't made public is to protect the trees from said public (who tend to do stupid things like cut out burls, take souvenirs, carve their initials, and damage delicate root systems). I've actually visited Methuselah (the Bristlecone) but went with members of the Tucson dendrochronology lab. I was a forester working for the Department of The Interior in Nevada at the time and had been assisting the lab on some projects. And BTW, Methuselah is on federal land (USFS). I'd guess there's lots of people who know where Hyperion (the Redwood) is, too; you just have to know somebody and be a safe bet.
Most archeological sites are not made public either because if they were they'd be dug up. I think we can consider these trees to be living archeological sites. It's a bit of a tragedy of the commons thing.
Those old Bristlecone are amazing. I also visited the site on Wheeler Peak in Nevada several times (also with the dendrochronology guys on one occasion). You can definitely wander around the grove; just won't know which one is Methuselah. I could go on about Bristlecone but will spare you.I know the reason. It's sad they have to do that. Thanks for the correction of who owns the land. If I could choose one of the two to visit I would choose Methuselah.