Restricted Debate Black Confederates - How many were killed and wounded in battle?

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One of the questions on the Mississippi pension application for servants was- "Were you ever wounded while in actual service?"
1280 answered that question and 110 said yes. That's 8.6%.

Now, how many blacks were attached to Confederate armies during the war?
50,000?...60,000?

What's 8.6% of 50,000 - if the percentage holds true?

4,300.

8.6% of 60,000?

5,160.


What was the killed to wounded ratio? 1:4/1:5.

1,000?

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Handy Myers- wounded at the Battle of Corinth, MS, October 3, 1862.
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Albert Hawkins- wounded at Mansfield, LA.
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One of the questions on the Mississippi pension application for servants was- "Were you ever wounded while in actual service?"
1280 answered that question and 110 said yes. That's 8.6%.

Now, how many blacks were attached to Confederate armies during the war?
50,000?...60,000?

What's 8.6% of 50,000 - if the percentage holds true?

4,300.

8.6% of 60,000?

5,160.

What was the killed to wounded ratio? 1:4/1:5.

1,000?

*

Handy Myers- wounded at the Battle of Corinth, MS, October 3, 1862.
View attachment 316971

Albert Hawkins- wounded at Mansfield, LA.
View attachment 316972
https://civilwartalk.com/threads/black-southerners-and-the-confederate-cause-what-the-newspapers-said-1861-1865.129911/page-48#post-1483573
 
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One of the questions on the Mississippi pension application for servants was- "Were you ever wounded while in actual service?"
1280 answered that question and 110 said yes. That's 8.6%.

Now, how many blacks were attached to Confederate armies during the war?
50,000?...60,000?

What's 8.6% of 50,000 - if the percentage holds true?

4,300.

8.6% of 60,000?

5,160.

What was the killed to wounded ratio? 1:4/1:5.

1,000?

*

Handy Myers- wounded at the Battle of Corinth, MS, October 3, 1862.
View attachment 316971

Albert Hawkins- wounded at Mansfield, LA.
View attachment 316972
Charles Lutz.jpg


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One of the questions on the Mississippi pension application for servants was- "Were you ever wounded while in actual service?"
1280 answered that question and 110 said yes. That's 8.6%.

Now, how many blacks were attached to Confederate armies during the war?
50,000?...60,000?

What's 8.6% of 50,000 - if the percentage holds true?

4,300.

8.6% of 60,000?

5,160.

What was the killed to wounded ratio? 1:4/1:5.

1,000?

*

Handy Myers- wounded at the Battle of Corinth, MS, October 3, 1862.
View attachment 316971

Albert Hawkins- wounded at Mansfield, LA.
View attachment 316972
https://civilwartalk.com/threads/black-confederate-count.142783/page-12#post-1762237
 

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Second and last moderator warning:

Please stay on topic. And the topic is not whether the black people who were along with the Confederate army were slaves, confederates, had an option to be there, etc etc.

The topic is How many of them were wounded or killed.

Anyone who strays off that topic and/or try to derail the thread ignoring this warning will be banned from the thread and assigned points. If you do not have information to add, you should stay silent instead of starting a discussion regarding semantics. If your attempt is to play nasty so this thread gets locked, will result in your banning.

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July Galluchat was a laborer on the SC coastal defenses who lost limbs in a Union bombardment. South Carolina awarded him a Confederate pension at least as early as 1889.

The Manning times. (Manning, Clarendon County, S.C.) 1884-current, June 27, 1888
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The Anderson intelligencer. (Anderson Court House, S.C.) 1860-1914, August 15, 1889
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92 year old former black Confederate Nathan Best is shown at the Mississippi Confederate Home in 1936 with the notation: “ he returned from the war minus an arm.” Looking at the photograph he is obviously missing his left arm.

R.B. Rosenburg, Living Monuments: Confederate Soldiers Homes in the New South, p. 136.
 

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Best, Nathan, NC - Wounded (loss of arm). (MS Pension)
Galluchat, July, SC - Wounded at Fort Sumter, SC. (News Archive: Anderson Intelligencer, SC, August 15, 1889)
Hawkins, Albert, McNeil's MS Regiment - Wounded at Mansfield, LA, April 6, 1864. (MS Pension)
Lutz, Charles F., 8th LA Infantry - Wounded at Gettysburg, PA, July 2, 1863. (LA CSR & Pension)
Myers, Handy, 7th Battalion MS Infantry - Wounded at Corinth, MS, October 3, 1862. (MS Pension)
Pickett, Eli, LA Artillery - Wounded 1864. (News Archive: Times Picayune, New Orleans, LA, August 10, 1889)
Revels, William C., 21st NC Inf - Wounded at Winchester, VA, Gettysburg, PA, and Newbern, NC. (NC CSR & Pension)
Thomas, Jackson, 5th (McKenzie's) TN Cavalry - Killed at Big Creek, TN, March 14, 1862. (TN CSR)

CSR=National Archives' Compiled Service Records of Confederate Soldiers
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92 year old former black Confederate Nathan Best is shown at the Mississippi Confederate Home in 1936 with the notation: “ he returned from the war minus an arm.” Looking at the photograph he is obviously missing his left arm.

R.B. Rosenburg, Living Monuments: Confederate Soldiers Homes in the New South, p. 136.
Nathan Best, MS Pension
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MONROE JONES Body-Servant to James McAlpine, Company A 1st Mississippi Light Artillery. First received a pension from the State of Mississippi in 1900. After re-locating to Tennessee 10 years later, he became a pensioner of the Volunteer State. Monroe lost both legs below the knee at Snyder's Bluff during the Vicksburg Campaign.

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