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Before The Uniform, More Occupational Photographs

Discussion in 'The Ladies Tea' started by JPK Huson 1863, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. JPK Huson 1863

    JPK Huson 1863 Lt. Colonel Forum Host

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    Always become reminded of who composed the great armies- the men who answered the call, 1861 or later, were drafted or craftily induced to join in some cases. You see row on row of bayonet sometimes in the old photos, regiments at dress parade like distant, deadly porcupine- uniformly marching, one weapon, one man, one army. Before army life hammered distinct personalities into companies and regiments hence walking weaponry they came from walks-of-life. Have done these before- from whence we came. What men laid aside to go to war.

    If there are repeats please excuse, tough to keep track.

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    Chain Maker


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    Cooper


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    Surveyer


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    Watch Maker

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    Architects



    occ barber southern hotel bob wilkinson.jpg
    Barber, this man was specifically named as a barber named Bob Wilkinson


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    Blacksmith



    occ carp.jpg
    Carpenter




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    Dairyman


    occ goldminer.jpg
    Goldminer



    occ homeopath.jpg
    Homeopath



    occ ironworker.jpg
    Ironworker


    occ chemist.jpg
    Chemist



    occ rr workers.jpg Railroad Workers


    occ sailor.jpg

    Sailor



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    Trapper



     

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  3. photoman475

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    The photo labeled "workers" appears to be a railroad track gang, out to maintain the tracks or doing a track inspection. They are on a hand powered speeder.
     
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  4. civilwarincolor

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    I find the image of the Dairyman interesting since it appears to show milk flowing during in a still image. Since the shutter speeds were not high enough to accomplish this and to actually pour milk would be difficult since you would need a longer exposure than you could achieve before completely filling the cup. Not to mention that the large milk container would be shifting its center of balance causing it to move and blur.

    I wonder if they put a small piece of white cloth inside the milk container to be the "milk" in the finished image so that it could be taken with the camera limits of the day.

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    Intriguing photos. I also looked closer at the dairyman and the "milk" is obviously some sort of substitute.
     
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    I agree. I thought it was genius that they wanted to convey motion in the image, but knew there would be difficulties. With just a casual glance you don't notice.
     
  7. AUG351

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    Cool photos. I've always like this group portrait of miners, circa 1850s.
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    Here's another favorite: daguerreotype portrait of Joseph Sharp, 1849 gold miner of Sharp’s Flats.
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    This is a shot from the 1870s, but these gentlemen were of age to serve in the War:

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    Here is a butcher:

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    Loggers:

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    Brick masons:

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    And here is a pigeon messenger:

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    That chemist photo is really amazing in its depth and clarity
     
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    Police Man
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    Butcher
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    1850s sailor
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    Actors
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    1851
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    Oberlin college students early 1850s
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    Various other 1850s working class
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    Gangsters in the 1850's
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    1850's pimp?
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    The loggers in post #7 have peaveys that look so modern! That would place them after the late 1850s when Joseph Peavey improved the cant hook.
     
  13. JPK Huson 1863

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    Love to go through and know the occupations in that post- so cool. Here's something I neglected to investigate- were these occupational photos a fad of sorts? Something the worker had done or did photographers do them? Some of the occupations we see can't have been lucrative Would the sitter have invested funds in something so expensive? Did photographers in this new field look for ways to document life or were these to sell?
     
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    Seamstress



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    Embroidery Worker

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    Federal Mashall

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    Fiddler

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    Our Field Nurses

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    Fifer

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    Firefighters


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    Flutina

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    Framemaker

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    Freemason

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    Gamekeeper

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    Hatter, he does look affected by the chemicals. I'm not making fun f the poor guy- he looks very sleepy.

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    Highland Guard

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    Hunter

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    Inventor -I'm not convinced this is what he is? Someone's 2015 interpretation of his occupation based on being confused. Maybe he is- that looks like some kind of bobbin/fly reel engineering feat.



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    Jewelry Salesman,with traveling display
     
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    Fisherman

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    Artist

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    Firemen


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    Governess

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    Workers, from a German Organization




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    Hypnotist


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    Iceman


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    Induction Officer

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    Loggers




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    Musicians






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    Group of Musicians, some of them blind



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    Photographer

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    2 Female Photographers

    This thread has all been LoC, Pinterest and National Archives
     
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    Interesting post! Makes me wonder if occupational photos taken today will be as interesting in years to come. These folks in the vintage photos seem so full of character, almost animated.
     
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    I'm always amazed at the detail in these old photographs. And in particular with so many clean shaven men here, it all makes them look so much more modern and relatable.
    Slightly off topic, but is there any 19th century images where people show emotion like a smile or laugh etc?
     
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  18. AUG351

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    Pretty sure this one isn't from the 1850s.... not too sure if they're gangsters either. Probably a Pinterest description there. With all the bowler hats it looks more like the 1880s, maybe later....
     
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  19. AUG351

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    Always like the ones with musicians. Here's a daguerreotype of two traveling minstrels, circa 1850s, with banjo and bones:

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    Excellent thread, enjoyed it very much.
     
  21. JPK Huson 1863

    JPK Huson 1863 Lt. Colonel Forum Host

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    Thought I'd bump this while looking for something. We had a photo brought here from elsewhere, described as ' Woman sewing a Civil War quilt ', on a sewing machine, no less ( like to see that! ), which is actually a nice English woman named Elizabeth Blackwell. I'm browsing threads looking for it because her link doesn't work. Sounds like a Pinterest- type 3rd hand kind of thing.
     

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