Another “old” sword.


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Patrick H

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#4
Looks like an aged repro to me. The font on the ricasso markings is wrong as is the alignment of the letters. The whole thing is just too crude for a genuine Tiffany product.
I would not have paid critical attention to the stamping without seeing this comment. I am ignorant of the correct font, but I can easily see that the letters were stamped one at a time and carelessly aligned. I agree that Tiffany's stamp would have been much more precise.
 

Glen_C

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#5
Just linking the other thread, as there are some other pictures.
https://civilwartalk.com/threads/swords.158814/#post-2069599

As many pictures as there are, they are a bit inconclusive. The marks are strange and the guard castings a bit blocky. The angle of the shots not helpful in some regards. It seems to be trying to be a fancy staff officer's sword, Can we get six clean and moderately framed pictures in profiles of the hilt, from the top of the hilt, from the bottom of the hilt, straight at the butt and finally looking at the guard from the blade end and straight at it.

The marks of Tiffany, with the US just don't make sense for what the sword was sold as. However, some of these NY swords may have been assembled with other than German blades. The type face is kind of wonky.

I hate to seem particular but those six hilt shots and straight on profile shots of the entire sword with scabbard next to it are some basics that are helpful.

Cheers
GC
 
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zburkett

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I really know more about knives than I know about swords. With that up front, to me it looks British and more like an old counterfeit rather than a modern fake. Perhaps something made in India to sell to Colonial troops. I'm basing that a lot on the "Tiffany" seems to be hot stamped while most fakes are cold stamped. If that sword is artificially aged, whoever aged it did a really good job. That is the kind of relic I would like to take out for a beer and get it to tell me where it has been.
 
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#7
Many thanks folks. I will try some more pictures. In some pics I was trying to show what appear to be seams in the suspension ring straps on the scabbard.
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