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Act of Kindness - 9th GA and 64th NY Wheatfield at Gettysburg

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  1. lelliott19

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    Recalling personal experience at Gettysburg, Corporal William W Moore (Co. F 64th NYVI) in the Report of the Seventh Annual Reunion of the 64th N.Y. Regimental Association at Salamanca, New York, Aug. 21 and 22, 1895, Historical Sketches, Letters, Roster of Survivors", pg. 56-59:

    "...I was wounded just at that time [he had captured a rebel flag, picked it up and then dropped it - this was immediately before Capt. Fuller was killed - a man much loved by all men in the 64th Regiment] by a shot which fractured my right thigh. The rebs were around me and over me in an instant, shouting 'we are whipping you-uns now,' which they found to be a mistake a few minutes later.

    The regiment in front of the 64th in that fight was the 9th Georgia, under the command of the Lieutenant-Colonel. He gave me his name, but I have forgotten it. I shall always remember him and his regiment with the greatest gratitude for the many acts of kindness they bestowed upon me and other wounded Union boys near me. He bathed my wound from his canteen, took my canteen which was nearly new and filled it with fresh cold water. I was unable to move and he helped me to get behind a tree so I would not get hit by our own men.

    He talked with me until very late that night. The next morning he came with more men and a stretcher and carried me to the stone-house where about a dozen other wounded Union men lay. We were all kindly treated. The last time I saw the Colonel we exchanged canteens and pocket-knives. He hesitated about the exchange because my canteen was much the best, but I insisted and he seemed pleased to get a good new canteen. I hope to meet him and other members of the 9th Georgia, at our National Encampment at St. Paul next September..."

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  3. Aussie Billy Sherman

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    Quick Google to see that the lieutenant colonel was John c mounger
     
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    From what I could find the Lieutenant-Colonel commanding the 9th that day John C. Mounger. The issue is he was killed July 2 so it may not be him.
     
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    The 9thgeorgiainfantry website says this:

    My thanks to Barbara Van Vlack, researching the 64th New York Infantry Regiment for sharing this with me. It appears Cpl. Moore had the Confederate rank of Col. and Capt. mistaken (understandable, as Rebel officers' rank were stars on the collar). He was probably writing about Capt. George Hillyer, acting as regimental commander of the 9th Georgia..........
    Sorry for not including that in the OP.
     
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    Hillyer lived a long life living till 1927
     
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    These are great, keep'em coming.
     
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    I concur!!! thanks for sharing!!
     
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    George Hillyer was quite the guy. He was a lawyer before the war and State Senator and then a judge of Fulton County (where Atlanta is). He later become mayor of Atlanta.


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    At the risk of making more work for Mike and Ami there should be a POW ( rats, that doesn't turn out very well.... ) Post of the Week with blind nominations, just kind of a cool thing. With MUCH respect to all who contributed, this is mine.

    Thanks very much for bringing it here Elliot- had been browsing while the dogs were eating their shaggy little heads off. Had to log in and 'like' this. A lot!
     
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    And keeping with Acts of Kindness, and the 9th Georgia Regiment:
    This incident occurred the day after the Wheatfield on 3 July, 1863 (the day of Pickett's charge). The 9th (what was left of it after losing 56% in the Wheatfield) and the 11th Ga. regiments were ordered in to reinforce the 7th Ga. and 1st Texas defending Baughman's Battery on the extreme right of the Confederate lines from an attack by Kirkpatrick's (New York) Union Cavalry. The Union Cavalry was attacking what they thought was a sparsely defended battery, however, as the charge reached the battery, Georgia, Alabama and Texas regiments all converged on the Cavalry and the Union force was almost annihilated............. "It was July and the sun was immensely hot. In front of us was a wounded Yankee cavalry-man. He was crying piteously for water and we wanted to relieve him if we could, but it was as much as any man's life was worth to expose himself before the wall. You might put up your hat, and a bullet would strike it in less than a minute. Littleton Raines and Robert Upshaw, two of my men, were of the litter corps and had come up and laid down with us behind the rock wall. Their litter was bloody, but just enough white was left about it to make it barely possible that it might be used as a flag of truce. So I told Raines to try to bring in that wounded Federal and to wave a flag over the wall but nobody had a hankerchief, or at least one that was white, not even as white as the cloth of the litter. So I told Raines to hold his litter up over the wall and wave it back and forth. He did so, and in two or three minutes the firing from the enemy's sharpshooters slackened and finally ceased altogether. I then told Raines to get up on the wall and wave his litter, as if for a signal and some of the enemy stepped out in open view. Not a shot was fired at him or them. Upshaw, the other litter bearer, then joined Raines and they got over the wall and went to where the wounded Yankee was; brought him in and laid him down behind the wall and we gave him water and what comfort we could.........."
    .......from George Hillyer's "Battle of Gettysburg: Address Before the Walton County Georgia Confederate Veterans", August 2nd, 1904.
     
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    Part One:


    http://theirstoriescw.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-willis-babcock-story-new-year-new.html


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    'The Wheatfield' at Gettysburg

    For some individuals it might be difficult to make the connection with stories of history. Old tales of far off places and people that don't capture the imagination of our over-sensitized world can sometimes seem quite distant from the relevant circles of our fast paced lifestyles. For this week's post, hopefully, the imagination might be captured once more through a thrilling discovery that involves a most dramatic, but somber tale. That tale has been collecting cobwebs in the dark for far too long. With its recent discovery maybe we can shed some light. The quickly forgotten fact about the past is that its participants were very real people. They were much like you and I; living, breathing, dreaming, feeling, loving and hoping...real people.

    INTO THE BLOODY WHEATFIELD

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    Colonel John R. Brooke

    On July 2, 1863, the fighting had been swirling in and around a 22 acre Wheatfield on the farm of George Rose for nearly two hours in the heat and humidity of a Pennsylvania mid-summer's afternoon. There were already thousands of men laying about the field when Colonel John Rutter Brooke was ordered to lead his Second Corps brigade across the already obliterated whirlpool of death. His men moved gallantly forward, south across the Millerstown Road and into the vortex of that very deadly field. There they met the same problems of the previous commands, both north and south, that ventured onto that open and exposed knoll where the wheat no longer stood tall. His men from Pennsylvania, Connecticut, New York and Delaware were stopped cold in their tracks by the wall of lead that met them. The stand-still lasted for maybe fifteen minutes with many good men giving the ultimate sacrifice.

    All the while Colonel Brooke was trying to get his men moving, but his orders could not be passed down the line through the din of battle. Finally realizing there was no other way, the twenty four year old grabbed the flag of his former regiment (53rd PA) and ran out in front of the battle line into the wall of fire. His men quickly got the point and the rush was on. The brigade stormed across the southern part of the field, not stopping until they nearly reached the crest of Rose's Hill, driving the Georgians in their front all the way.

    My command was then moved forward in order of battle through a wheat-field, about the center of which we commenced firing, continuing for fifteen minutes or more, when orders were received from Colonel Brooke to fix bayonets.

    This was done, and, in connection with the brigade, we charged upon the enemy, driving him before us, capturing some prisoners, and finally carrying the crest of the hill.

    Lt. Colonel Richards McMichael, 53rd PA(1)

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    Flag carried by the 64th NY at Gettysburg

    The heroic efforts of the Fourth Brigade, First Division, Second Corps bought more valuable time for the endangered Federal line and temporarily halted the ferocious Confederate attack by Longstreet's boys. The only problem with this entire episode was discovered too late. Brooke's men had counter-attacked so doggedly that they had outrun their supports and their new advanced battle line had both flanks hanging in the air. Brooke knew that unless supports were on the way, his men's tough fighting would be for naught.

    It was also around this time that Colonel Brooke was wounded. He chose to remain on the field and try to keep his brigade above the rising tide. All the while, more and more men of his tough veteran brigade were falling all around. One regiment of the brigade, the 64th New York, was on the left side of the brigade line. They came to Gettysburg with two hundred and twenty-one men. Before the day was through, only half of these would be able to consider their day's experience, unscathed in the safety of their own lines. The only regiment between the 64th NY and the brigade's hanging left flank was the 2nd Delaware which was losing men with each passing second. The fighting had now reached a crisis point and the only strength upon which the brigade could rely was its veteran commanders, young as they might be.

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    YOUNG VETERANS ALL

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    Captain Henry Fuller, 64th NY

    One of those veteran officers was twenty-four year old Henry Fuller who had just received his Captain straps as a result of the disastrous Federal campaign at Chancellorsville in May. With three vacancies at the Captain's level in the 64th New York, Colonel Bingham submitted the brave young man's name for promotion and it was just as easily commissioned. Fuller had been through the thickest of every engagement in which his regiment had been a part up to this point in the war and he was not about to shrink from the hot spot in which he found himself on this day.

    Another young, but experienced officer was nineteen year old Lieutenant Willis Babock of Company G. He also had experienced the trials and tribulations of the Virginia Peninsula, Fredericksburg and the horrors of Chancellorsville. Both of his brothers were also serving the Union in different regiments that were not present at Gettysburg (Willoughby - 75th NY and Lucious - 9th MN). Their father Samuel did not want any of his three boys to enlist. He had just lost his wife and fourth son in 1859 and could not bear to lose another. Honor and duty soon prevailed though and he gave his sons to the country that they all loved so much, knowing full well that one of them might not come home.

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    Lt. Willis Babcock, 64th NY

    Those days of heading off to glorious war with pomp and circumstance were very distant memories by the time these experienced soldiers came to Gettysburg. Beyond that, the valiant fight they had made thus far was now in great jeopardy. It was do or die time. As Colonel Brooke states in his official report:

    Both my aides being wounded, and myself severely bruised, I with great difficulty was able to maintain a proper knowledge of the enemy. Being notified about this time that a heavy column of the enemy was coming upon my left, I immediately took measures to meet them, sending word to that effect to the general commanding. I held them at bay for some time, when word was brought me that my right was being turned, and finding no troops coming to my support, and finding that unless I retired all would be killed or captured, I reluctantly gave the order to retire...(2)

    The 64th New York was facing a very severe threat on its left. The center of the brigade(53rd PA) received the orders to retreat first, followed shortly thereafter by the melting flanks. As the 2nd Delaware started its withdrawal from the left, the 64th was exposed to the same enfilading heat that forced their Delaware brothers off the battle line. This fire was concentrated on the New Yorkers in a large part by Brigadier General George Tige Anderson's Georgia Brigade.

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    Seldom visited monument to Captain Henry Fuller
    along Rose Run south of 'The Wheatfield'

    In the 64th New York, Private Whipple recalled Capt. Henry Fuller, lying slightly in advance, was firing at "some Rebel colors when the order came..." to fall back. Fuller looked over his shoulder in disbelief and asked who gave the order. Nobody seemed to know. Suddenly an aide, possibly Lieutenant Wilson rode along the line calling out to "fall back" and "get out." Now convinced, Fuller rose to his feet, but was quickly hit in the leg and fell. Whipple grabbed Fuller's left arm and another man the right, and thus "we made several rods to the rear followed by the enemy..." Suddenly a bullet struck Fuller in the back and exited his body just under Whipple's arm. As the other man abandoned them, Whipple dropped his rifle-musket and carried, then dragged his captain toward Rose Run. When they neared the stream Fuller told Whipple to lay him down as he was fatally wounded. Whipple recalled how Fuller "looked up and said, 'George, keep up good courage.'" It was a look he would never forget. Confederates soon appeared around him, demanding his surrender. Denying the request to stay with Fuller a moment longer, the Confederates shouted, "Go to the rear you ****ed Yankee son of a *****." As Whipple was taken away he recalled it being "the saddest moment I have ever seen....It seemed as if I were leaving the last friend that I had...."(3)

    The worst was not yet over for the men of the 64th New York and other parts of Brooke's Brigade. They continued their retreat just the way they had come onto the field, with Georgians hot on their heels. After crossing Rose Run, it was time to once more cross that deadly whirlpool that we know today simply as 'The Wheatfield.' For Lieutenant Willis Babcock, the fight thus far had been a trying one. Although he had led his company bravely through the heat of the advance, and helped them back off the hill, he knew there was little aide he could provide his men now that it was time to cross that deadly open space. It was every man for himself and at the most, small mixed bands of resistance fighting. Ever the brave leader by example, the regiment's Major Leman Bradley, explained the fate of Willis in a letter to the young lieutenant's father written on July 5, 1863.

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    "Yesterday was a sad day to us -- We burried our dead. Your brave son Lt. Willis G. Babcock has fought his last battle. He sleeps by the side of a great rock covered by a running vine, just in front of our breastworks. He was killed in battle July 2nd. He was in the thickest of the fight, and to the very front in our charge. The last position of the enemy that we took, was a rocky ledgey wood. During the time we held the ledge, I saw Willis very active in directing the men how and were to shoot.
    I saw him standing by the side of Sargeant Peterson of his own Co. tearing cartridges for the Sargeant. We had to abandon our advanced position, and were followed up by the rebels under cover of a wood, and lost way. Willis was shot while we were falling back through a wheat field. He was shot through the right breast by a rifle ball. he fell about six A.M. [should be P.M.] That night the enemy held the field, and the next day their sharp shooters kept us back. On the morning of the 4th I sent Capt Faport out with a detail to look for the wounded and dead. Soon after Lieut. Orrin C. Burdick of the 27th Conn. came to me and informed me that he had found the body of Willis. On his breast was an enevelop pinned, on which was written in strange hand Lt. W. G. Babcock 64th N.Y.V. His sword memorandum book and purse were gone, but his clothing had not been disturbed.

    We burried him on the farm of George Weikert back of his stone house. He lies to the right of Capt Fuller of the 64th. At the head of Capt F's grave I cut this mark + in the rock. We put up head boards to each grave, cutting the name Lieut. W.G. Babcock, 64th N.Y. on the head board of Willis. We made the best coffin we could of boards, and rolled him in his blanket. On top of his box coffin I placed a bent bayonet.
    We today built a fence around the two graves. Mr. Weikert's Post Office address is Gettysburgh, Adams Co. Pa. He lives about two miles south of the village. He will protect the graves. We are under marching orders. I have written resting the paper on my knee, and have been so interrupted as not to be able to give as clear and connected an account as I wish."
    (4)

    TO BURY YOUR CHILD
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    George Weikert House

    And so it was, another heart wrenching loss to Samuel Babcock of Homer, New York. He was one of thousands of people mourning all over the country for the losses they suffered at Gettysburg. Part of a smaller denomination, he was one of those mourners that was lucky enough to receive word that his son had been given a proper burial. Although an ironic use of the word fortunate, he was one of the fortunate few who ventured to the battleground to search for his son thanks to the diligence of Willis' comrades. Samuel's goal was to find Willis' body and return it home. On July 19, 1863 Samuel wrote to his two remaining sons from the US Hotel in York, Pennsylvania. Willoughby was serving with the 75th New York and Lucius was with the 9th Minnesota. This is the word they received from their father.

    My Dear Children,
    I wrote to Willoughby before leaving home for Gettysburgh intending it for you all and I do so now. I left home on Monday for the battlefield as I told you and came by way of Elmyra Harrisburg York to Gettysburg arriving there Wednesday eve, on the train I came was 13 cars filled with fathers and brothers looking as I was for killed and wounded, it seemed to me the largest train of mourners I was ever in and I could not keep back the tears, for my heart was sad O how sad. I thought of the last time poor Willie passed over the same road and of the sad parting I had with him at our depot when he left home for the last time and I thought of the letters you and I wrote him after the battle of Chancellorsville when he thought of leaving the army if he could do so with honor to himself and I must say I felt some misgivings over it and wished I had told him to do what he thought best under the circumstances. But that like many other things has passed and con not be recalled. I thought at the time I did wright, but my heart aches now while I think of it. But I must come to particulars. I found Codt Green and Eld Brigham on the ground. I at once made arrangements to have Willie's body disinterred and embalmed, but the crowd was grate and all wanting the same thing dun dead bodys were passing away from the battlefield by hundreds and while I was waiting on Friday for the embalmer and his time a dispatch came to the express office to take no more bodys until further notice.


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    Grave of Lt. Willis Babcock in Homer, New York
    Photo from findagrave.com by Stephen Woodward

    Doct G Eld B and I went over to his grave and they thought as he was buried in a quiet place well secured..[ill.] I had better leave it until cold wether and then convey home. The man who owned the farm said he could lay with so much care by Maj. Bradley with a sad heart, but when I came to lay my weary self on the bed that night and think of leaving Willie on the battlefield I could not do it if I had to stay weeks I would not leave without him. In the morning I found at the express office that by getting a zink coffin and then another one for the body to go inside and seeling up both after embalming they would take him. I lost no time in arrangein all this and in company with the embalmer and his hands Dr. G and I proceeded to Willie's grave, he had been buried 14 days--found the body in tolerable good state of preservation. The ball struck him near the right collarbone Dr. G. thinks broke it and cut one or both greater veins and probably died in a few minutes. His face neck and hair was covered with blood and quite dark. We took him after the Doct had got him embalmed and taken or cut his clothes from him rolled him in army blanket put him in the coffin sealed both boxes tight and had him conveyed to the express office and Willie's body now while I write is on its way to the cemetery in Homer. While on the battle field and visiting the diferent Corps hospitals I saw severall of the 64 and they all with one voice testified to his bravery good conduct and soldierly qualities. His chaplin in particular said he was the favorit of the Regt and no one he thought more of.

    I went all over the ground several times when the fight began and where Willie fell hoping to find some letter or scrap of his that I might recognize as his but could find none. I could here nothing of his watch, sword, purse or memorandum book but can but hope that the man who pined the envelop on his coat has them and will return them.

    Willoughby Willie has layed himself on the alter of his country. It was the bravery of him and others who saved the army from distruction and Penn from pillage and turned the whole tide of things here with Gen Meads army. A wounded soldier in the 64 told me the night before the battle Gen M. issued an order to the officers alone and he inquired what it ment or what was up that they wer cald together and Willie told him it was that the country expedted of every officer to do there duty and that very probably the fate of the country hung upon the coming battle. And now Willoughby I think you have dun your part of the fighting and I do hope you will take care of yourself in future and as soon as you can with honor to yourself will take leave of the battle field and of the army.


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    Grave of Samuel Babcock in Homer, New York
    where he is buried with his wife and four sons

    Things look now as if our hardest fighting had been dun, but I do feel as if our family had fully borne their part of this terible war. I had no adaquate idea of what our soldiers had to bare until I came down here. There are now at Gettysburgh and surrounding several thousand in other directions around town and the government has been carrying them away to Baltimore Harrisburg Philidelphia Washington New York and other places two trains a day for the last two weeks. I went over the field of battle an arch of 7 miles considerably and the ground is the most admirable for fighting large rocks and ledges with heavy swells offering strong points quite often. It seems to me as if all the horses in the country had been killed, as the lay just as they were when killed scatered over all the vast battle ground. I counted 13 around one house and barn. Knapsack haversacks blankets guns bayonets was every where to be seen and no one can visit the field without feeling that the fight was the most desperate on the continent. As I visited the hospital saw the wounded in every state from the dying to the convalesant and see how cheerfull they all were I could but say our brave boys are heroes. O how much our army of the Potomac has endured. I can but feel bad when I think how much poor Willie has passed through in these terible long and fatigueing marches but he is at rest now and I hope in Heven to join his mother and little Charlie who had gon before. May the Lord sactify this lesson to the good of us all. I paid $58.00 for his two coffins and embalming his body and $26.00 express to Homer total $84. I should not have left him if it had cost twice that sum Doct Greene is with here, we came here last eve and shall start this eve or tomorrow for home. Eld B. is still at Gettysburgh doing what he can for the boys.
    I hope to find letter from Kil and WIlloughby when I get home the papers say Port Hudson has surrendered and it rumored that Morris Island and Charleston has fallen which I hope may prove true. The riot in New York people feel here will work for the good of the country, it is generally thought it will kill Coperheadism or at least silence there clamers and show the strength of the government. Charles F. Pratt, Clark Stickney, John Owen and many other brave boys sleep on the battlefield. I saw the grave of Barksdale and many other Reb officers. I must close.
    Your father,
    Samuel Babcock
    (5)

    In Mr. Babcock's letter we can find that odd mix of gut wrenching emotions to which few of us can ever imagine to attest. The heartbreak is almost incomprehensible, but it did not end there for Samuel. By the time the war ended nearly two years later he had lost his last two sons to the fighting as well. Lucius of the 9th Minnesota was captured at Brice's Crossroads and died at Andersonville Prison in Georgia. Willoughby was mortally wounded at the battle of Third Winchester in Virginia in 1864. The price paid by Samuel Babcock in the American Civil War is difficult to fathom. He lost his entire family in a span of five years. His wife and youngest son dying in 1859, his beloved three boys...soldiers all, gave the last full measure of devotion for the Union.

    THE STORY CONTINUES

    The story does not end there though. A few weeks ago, Gettysburg Licensed Battlefield Guide Richard Rigney was sifting through files at the 'Guide Room' when he came across the deeply moving letters above. By a bit of serendipity he also came across a book called "Where Duty Called Them: The Story of the Samuel Babcock Family of Homer, New York in the Civil War," all in a very short time span. After learning of the tragic story and being the ever curious explorer, Richard went out to the field to see if he could find the markings on the rock left by Major Bradley of the 64th New York, those marking the graves of Lieutenant Babcock and Captain Fuller. To his amazement and mine, the inscription is still there!
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    Carving made by Major Bradley and his comrades to mark the graves of Captain Fuller and Lt. Babcock

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    Located near the Weikert Barn

    This discovery is one more link from past to present and proof that the link is quite vibrant. Located on a large, vine covered boulder (just as in the letter) approximately 50 yards southeast of the Weikert Barn (15 yards south of the stone wall) and behind the house, the symbol on the rock at first looks like an incomplete Maltese Cross (symbol of the 5th Corps). This would not make sense since the 64th New York belongs to the 2nd Corps. One idea is that the carver got tired and went the easier route. Instead of carving all the curves to the trefoil symbol (2nd Corps), he shortened his work by making straight lines. Another idea is that the symbol might simply represent a cross, or trinity. Inside the larger Maltese Cross looking part is a sphere. Inside the sphere is the symbol in Major Bradley's letter,'+.'

    It is these very stories and discoveries that hopefully help to keep the interest of us all, nice and perked. Rest be assured there are many more gems like this still awaiting the opportunity to be brought back out into the light. With persistence, passion and the careful research by some very valuable people, slowly we can come closer to telling a more complete story of this traumatic history.
    Thank you very much to LBG Richard Rigney for sharing his discovery and for sharing the materials used for this post. His passion for the history of the battle runs deep, as anyone that attends one of his tours can attest to. Thank you sincerely.

    Sources
    1. The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, 1880-1901, Washington, D.C., Ser. 1, Vol. xxvii, Pt. 2, p. 409
    2. The War of the Rebellion: A Compilation of the Official Records of the Union and Confederate Armies, 1880-1901, Washington, D.C., Ser. 1, Vol. xxvii, Pt. 1, p. 401
    3. Campbell, Eric. "Caldwell Clears The Wheatfield." Gettysburg Magazine, July 1, 1990, 47-48.
    4. Bradley, Major Leman. "Letter to Samuel Babcock ." July 5, 1863.
    5. Babcock, Samuel. "Letter to Sons." July 19, 1863.

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    The Ninth Georgia's Regimental Battle Flag
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    About 1/4 of the flag is missing (shot away), but looks like 48 (?) bullet holes in the remaining material.
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    The 9th Georgia's Battle Flag was selected by the Americus, Ga. Chapter 140 of the United Daughters of the Confederacy, as the flag that they sponsored for restoration (April, 2003), and are due the credit for the effort. THANK YOU!

    Mrs. Beth Usry, President
    United Daughters of the Confederacy, Chapter 140
    Leslie, Ga. 31764-2529



    Description of 9th Georgia's Battle Flag:Size; 56" long by 34 1/2" tall
    Field; Red Bunting
    Cross; Dark blue truncated bunting 7 3/4" wide
    Stars; 13 (10 extant) white bunting 5" diameter
    Attachment; a red bunting sleeve 1 1/2 " wide sewn along leading edge
    Battle Honors; Malvern Hill (closest to leading edge), Sharpsburg (top), Gettysburg (trailing edge). Bottom portion (missing) is presumed to have a Battle Honor (unknown).I think it is possibly Second Manasses


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    The Regimental battle flag accompanied the Ninth Georgia in about 60 engagements, from minor skirmishes to major battles, and was never captured or surrendered. . The surviving flag was replaced by a new one on 25 Mar.,1865, and sent to Col. Edward Hoge's sisters, Lizzie and Katie, who originally presented it. They, in turn, donated the 9th's flag to the State of Georgia on 20 July, 1910. The flag surrendered at Appomattox on 9 April, 1865 was the new replacement flag, not the original. This flag is in the Capitol Collection in Atlanta, Ga.

     
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  16. HardeeBoy

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    Everytime I come across these "Acts of Kindness"/ 'truce flag' type stories, I struggle to see how they could then go back to business as usual shortly thereafter..... back to killing each other. Maybe they should have just arm wrestled and left the weapons at home.

    I came across one the other day searching for info on the 1st/15th Ark. combined, at Cheatham Hill.

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    No doubt you've heard this one but:

    "At one point in the battle on June 27, not far from the "Dead Angle" the Union frontal assualt had failed leaving hundreds of dead and wounded Union soliders between the Confederate works and the Union lines. The woods and brush between the two armies caught fire because of the gun fire and artillery. The fire began to creep toward the wounded soldiers. Lt. Colonel William P. Martin who was commanding the 1st and 15th combined Arkansas Regiments, jumped on the earthworks and ordered his Confederate soldiers to cease firing. He then waved a white flag of truce yelling to the Union soldiers to "come and get your wounded, they are burning to death." For a short time the Union and Confederate soldiers helped remove the wounded and put out the fires. The next day the Union generals presented Martin with two Colt Revolvers as a thank you for his humanitarian efforts. Later they began to fire at each other again."
    - that text came a Civil war kids site. Lol.

    Thanks for your intitial post!
     
  17. Wallyfish

    Wallyfish Sergeant Trivia Game Winner

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    I am starting to plan my itinerary for my fall or early winter Gettysburg trip. Over the years I have either found by accident or purposely planned to find "named" Gettysburg rocks. In the January 2017 Gettysburg magazine there was a nice article on the "Babcock Rock". I have not seen this rock yet but I will find it on my next trip.

    I was going to start a new thread on the Babcock Rock until I discovered this excellent 2015 thread which in part discusses the rock. The Henry Fuller marker of the 64th NY is my favorite place on the battlefield to reflect in silence on the battle. So finding this Babcock Rock is a high priority for me.

    This thread is well worth the read (or reread since it is 2 years old). I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

    After 51 years of making 2-3 Gettysburg trips per year, one would think that there are no more "hidden" places to find on the battlefield. But these little gems keep cropping up making every trip exciting to see something new.
     
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  18. Drumshanbo

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    As to the original post, it's a great but vexing story. Mounger does fit, however he seems to have been mortally wounded fairly near the Emmitsburg Rd not long after the Brigade stepped off, much earlier than this account would indicate. Remember, for Hillyer to get command of the 9th, LTC Mounger, MAJ Jones, and at least one Captain, James McDonald King, (and probably one other) have to be out of action. If we believe Hillyer about when he assumes command.......and believing Hillyer's accounts gets trickier as time goes by, then that gives us a general timeline of when his superior officers were wounded. So, for my .02.........the mystery LTC is not Mounger.

    Assuming the LTC designation is not a mistake, I would think the only LTC from Andersons Brigade who would qualify would be LTC William Michael Luffman of the 11th GA.
     
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    JerseyBart Brigadier General Moderator Forum Host

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    If only political leaders before the war thought and acted with the humanity and compassion some of the enemy combatants did events may have transpired differently.
     
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    Even though this post is a couple years old, I just thought I'd mention I went to the Babcock rock yesterday, not for the first time, and it's getting harder to find the carving. I also went to the Willard marker, after the Babcock rock--must have been the day to visit obscure "markers" on the battlefield.:smile:
     

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